EU plans to ground British flights to the EU for no deal

[AtW]

Irrelevant, the U.K. cannot prevent the aircraft from flying into it, the same way that the EU cannot prevent U.K. aircraft flying into EU airspace. Unless the U.K. pulls a sickie and ATC goes on strike.

The disruption will be for U.K. carriers that have scheduled flights between two EU landings. Ironically this will probably be more inconvenient for the U.K. carrier and for EU passengers rather than U.K. passengers.

Err, EU can prevent any aircraft from flying into EU airspace!

[Zigenare]

Irrelevant, the U.K. cannot prevent the aircraft from flying into it, the same way that the EU cannot prevent U.K. aircraft flying into EU airspace. Unless the U.K. pulls a sickie and ATC goes on strike.

The disruption will be for U.K. carriers that have scheduled flights between two EU landings. Ironically this will probably be more inconvenient for the U.K. carrier and for EU passengers rather than U.K. passengers.

Oh well, **** 'em.

[BlasterBates]

It isn't a "basic service", it means that British airlines will be allowed to fly into the EU, and out of the EU, but will not be allowed to operate flights within the EU and will not be a part of the EU's bilateral aviation treaties.

Other than easyJet (which has already moved its intra-EU operation away from the UK to Austria), it isn't a particularly large market, but we have EU airlines like Wizzair, Ryanair and Norwegian operating flights to and from the UK which do not originate/end in the EU - not to mention that British Airways' parent company is Spanish.

Not according to their plans they outlined today.

the bloc warned that the last-minute plan “will only ensure basic connectivity”, signalling that there could still be significant disruption to flights.

[Eirikur]

Oh dear, you really do not know how to help yourself, do you?

Have a shufty at this...

Shanwick Oceanic Control - Wikipedia

I know that you m0r0n . I'm asking who is this "we"

[AtW]

Let them fly Netjet

[Zigenare]

I know that you m0r0n . I'm asking who is this "we"

Read the article, do some research.

[meridian]

Not according to their plans they outlined today.

Rather than quoting from a misinformed journalist at the Express, it’s usually better to read the actual notices.

[meridian]

Err, EU can prevent any aircraft from flying into EU airspace!

“Cannot prevent” might have been a bit strong. They’ve granted rights to other members to fly over. I can’t be bothered looking to see if the U.K. is a member in its own right, which may change the picture.

Freedoms of the air - Wikipedia

The first freedom is the right to fly over a foreign country without landing.[6]:31 It grants the privilege to fly over the territory of a treaty country without landing. Member states of the International Air Services Transit Agreement grant this freedom (as well as the second freedom) to other member states,[7] subject to the transiting aircraft using designated air routes.

[chopper]

“Cannot prevent” might have been a bit strong. They’ve granted rights to other members to fly over. I can’t be bothered looking to see if the U.K. is a member in its own right, which may change the picture.

Freedoms of the air - Wikipedia

Yes, the UK is a fully paid up member of ICAO in its own right.

(When did we vote to join ICAO and have to follow their rules? When did we vote for the Head of ICAO?)

[BlasterBates]

Rather than quoting from a misinformed journalist at the Express, it’s usually better to read the actual notices.

The clarification is:

"These measures will only ensure basic connectivity and in no means replicate the significant advantages of membership of the Single European Sky."

The text you quote says "certain air services"

Sure you may be right, but why are they warning of disruption, when it wouldn't affect more than a handful of internal EU flights.