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EU plans to ground British flights to the EU for no deal

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    #11
    Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
    But we do control an awful lot of North Atlantic airspace.
    Who is this we? Do you work at air traffic control, if that's the case I will never fly anymore . What a dumbass

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      #12
      Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
      But we do control an awful lot of North Atlantic airspace.
      FFS man! Why do you have to bring facts in to the discussion? You know it only causes confusion.

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        #13
        Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
        Although Airlines won't have the freedom to fly to the EU in the event of a no deal, the good news is that a basic service will be allowed.
        It isn't a "basic service", it means that British airlines will be allowed to fly into the EU, and out of the EU, but will not be allowed to operate flights within the EU and will not be a part of the EU's bilateral aviation treaties.

        Other than easyJet (which has already moved its intra-EU operation away from the UK to Austria), it isn't a particularly large market, but we have EU airlines like Wizzair, Ryanair and Norwegian operating flights to and from the UK which do not originate/end in the EU - not to mention that British Airways' parent company is Spanish.
        Taking a break from contracting

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          #14
          Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
          Who is this we? Do you work at air traffic control, if that's the case I will never fly anymore . What a dumbass
          Oh dear, you really do not know how to help yourself, do you?

          Have a shufty at this...

          Shanwick Oceanic Control - Wikipedia

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            #15
            Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
            But we do control an awful lot of North Atlantic airspace.
            It’s international airspace, if Britain stops guiding airplanes in it then some other country will get lucrative contract to manage it

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              #16
              Originally posted by AtW View Post
              It’s international airspace, if Britain stops guiding airplanes in it then some other country will get lucrative contract to manage it
              Yep, eventually.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
                Oh dear, you really do not know how to help yourself, do you?

                Have a shufty at this...

                Shanwick Oceanic Control - Wikipedia
                “Shanwick is the air traffic control (ATC) name given to the area of international airspace which lies above the northeast part of the Atlantic Ocean.”

                Internatiinal airspace

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
                  But we do control an awful lot of North Atlantic airspace.
                  Irrelevant, the U.K. cannot prevent the aircraft from flying into it, the same way that the EU cannot prevent U.K. aircraft flying into EU airspace. Unless the U.K. pulls a sickie and ATC goes on strike.

                  The disruption will be for U.K. carriers that have scheduled flights between two EU landings. Ironically this will probably be more inconvenient for the U.K. carrier and for EU passengers rather than U.K. passengers.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
                    Yep, eventually.
                    It’s very lucrative money wise, can’t see nay reasons why Ireland won’t be able to take over (other than building quickly necessary facilities), loss of earnings should be massive, probably enough to require state bailout of air controllers in UK

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by AtW View Post
                      “Shanwick is the air traffic control (ATC) name given to the area of international airspace which lies above the northeast part of the Atlantic Ocean.”

                      Internatiinal airspace
                      I think I responded to your previous post on the matter in the affirmative.

                      How long do you think it would take to negotiate the treaties and agreements to replace the control of Shanwick?

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