Parliamentary sovereignty

[meridian]

Not really - pretty sure very few if any countries will let you import/sell whatever the hell you want.

Obviously if the EU start to put more restrictions on goods from the UK than from other countries we have an issue...

The EU can’t unilaterally put more restrictions on goods from the U.K. than from other countries.

What they can do is change their regulations to suit their internal market (as is their sovereign right...) and those regulations would apply to all countries unless otherwise exempted or altered through FTAs or other bilateral agreements.

[chopper]

We voted against him last time, and it got us precisely no-fooking-where.

That's how democracy works though, right? We had one out of 28 votes. More people voted for Juncker than against.

I, along with most of the country, voted against the Conservative Party, and that got me, and us, precisely no-fooking-where. This country is clearly undemocratic as a result.

*They are not democratically elected, they are nominated. You vote for a party, and the party gets to decide who the representatives will be.

New process for 2019.

[chopper]

Not really - pretty sure very few if any countries will let you import/sell whatever the hell you want.

Obviously if the EU start to put more restrictions on goods from the UK than from other countries we have an issue...

Today, if there is an EU regulation, then Britain manufactures an item to the EU regulation. Happy to sell throughout the EU28.
After Brexit, if there is an EU regulation, and a British factory wishes to make an item to sell in the EU, it must continue to conform to that regulation. No change. Happy days.

Today, if there is no EU regulation, then Britain manufactures an item to the British standard, which is then accepted throughout the EU as part of the mutual recognition of standards.
After Brexit, if there is no EU regulation, then there is no recognition of the British regulation. But there is no European regulation either. So therefore if we want to sell the item on the German market, it must conform with German regulations after Brexit. Do we want to tell it on the French market? Well, it must conform with the French regulations. Also on the Spanish market? It must conform with Spanish regulations. Lots of change, lots of disruption going on here. Unhappy days.

Hopefully, the 'deal' continues mutual recognition of standards. We'd lose all that if there is no deal.

[WTFH]

I see that as part of our democratic parliamentary sovereignty, Downing Street have said there will NOT be a free vote on the proposal.

[chopper]

I see that as part of our democratic parliamentary sovereignty, Downing Street have said there will NOT be a free vote on the proposal.

The final decision on whether this is democratic will be some anonymous right wing facebook page who will add some words to a random picture, and those words will be seen as gospel, according to gammons.

And someone will shout them angrily on Question Time tomorrow night, maybe threatening to exterminate someone at the same time.

[Mordac]

That's how democracy works though, right? We had one out of 28 votes. More people voted for Juncker than against.

I, along with most of the country, voted against the Conservative Party, and that got me, and us, precisely no-fooking-where. This country is clearly undemocratic as a result.


New process for 2019.

And even remainers can't find a good word to say about him. Makes you wonder how twenty-something other countries voted for him. What was in those imaginary brown envelopes, one can only wonder...

[Mordac]

The final decision on whether this is democratic will be some anonymous right wing facebook page who will add some words to a random picture, and those words will be seen as gospel, according to gammons.

And someone will shout them angrily on Question Time tomorrow night, maybe threatening to exterminate someone at the same time.

I happily predict none of these things will happen, but I also happily predict you'll still be a twat tomorrow...

[meridian]

Brits in Europe will be disappointed to hear that freedom of movement seems off the table. "The citizens’ rights part of the Withdrawal Agreement was agreed in full back in March," Daniel Ferrie, an EU Commission spokesman, told The Local. The statement implies there are no new developments on citizenship rights in the latest draft text.

Sorry EU-based chaps, it looks like you’ll be restricted to working permits in a country rather than freedom across borders.

[Mordac]

Sorry EU-based chaps, it looks like you’ll be restricted to working permits in a country rather than freedom across borders.

Which is how it should have been in the first place.

[WTFH]

Parliamentary sovereignty

Blair has now said the deal won’t work.

To me, that’s like an endorsement, it’s going to work!

JRM, BoJo, Blair and Farage all in agreement? That must challenge the faith of Wailers