Cataclysm of Brexit 'could lead to Welsh independence'

[DoctorStrangelove]

Free ales!

I'll drink to that.

<in memory of the sign on the Mumbles road all those decades ago painted on the pillars at St. Helen's cricket ground>

[Mordac]

Once again, no logical connection between what I wrote and your reply. Don't you understand what the word "perceived" means? Or do you simply have difficulty understanding written text?

You need to learn to read. The Scots will get the square root of bugger-all in EU subsidies (if they get let in at all, that is) because they will be so far down the list that anything they previously got from being part of the UK will quickly become a distant memory. Their fishing industry will get pillaged even more than before, and if there is any oil left to plunder, I don't doubt the EU would hesitate in helping themselves to that as well. There is really no benefit, perceived or otherwise, in an independent Scotland being in the EU.
The best they can hope for is a bail-out when the inevitable happens, but the costs will be punitive.

[BR14]

Though there are some lovely scots though. .

Thankee, thankee sur
oh gawd bless ya guv'nor, - proper toff you are

[AtW]

nope

True, you voted for Unicorns and cakes - but what you’ll get would be a tad different

[vetran]

And you voted for Brexit in order to get chlorined chicken plus 2 weeks a year of US style holidays?

nope

[AtW]

Found the German & Dutch quite close culturally they both have massive respect for engineers and the French do know about work life balance.

And you voted for Brexit in order to get chlorined chicken plus 2 weeks a year of US style holidays?

[vetran]

Having worked and socialised with the French, Germans and Scottish, I've generally found that there are fewer cultural differences between Germans/French and English, than between Scottish and English. Except for humour of course.

We're certainly closer culturally than with the Americans.

Indeed I have never had a German threaten tae take merrr firkin haed orrrf wi a mini Jackk. Or a French man theraten to Maissh ye uup. Get me tulip faced with Pernod yes!


Though there are some lovely scots though. Found the German & Dutch quite close culturally they both have massive respect for engineers and the French do know about work life balance.

[AtW]

Free Wales!

[Bean]

Having worked and socialised with the French, Germans and Scottish, I've generally found that there are fewer cultural differences between Germans/French and English, than between Scottish and English. Except for humour of course.

We're certainly closer culturally than with the Americans.

Let me guess, you just so happen to have socialised with 1000+ people in each country, in order to extrapolate your 'anecdotal' personal evidence to the entire countries of ~80million people?

Do youngsters on the continent have underage drinking problems - or is there a 'continental culture' towards alcohol that differs massive to ours (Eng & Sco)?
Do they have pub crawls like here?
The French (& I'd assume Germans too) detest CCTV I'm told, and what is the UK - the most surveilled state in the world?
Food,
Music,
Monarchy.

CBA with any more because you're probably just trolling.

[Bean]

You should really stop reading the Daily Mail.

Scotland puts more in than it gets back. If we really were so heavily subsidised, why are Westminster so desperate to hold onto us?

We are the only oil producing nation that makes £0 from it. We also produce enough electricity for the whole of scotland from wind and wave power.

The EU is a different union from the UK. WE have 59 MPs against 590 or so English MPs so we can't outvote what England wants and the EU ref showed that as 62% of Scotland voted remain. In the EU all nations have a proper say in the running and have a veto. That's why little Ireland can hold out for what they want from Brexit because the other 26 back them up.

Voting in the Council of the European Union - Wikipedia
Scroll down to 'Policy Areas' to see what requires QMV now, instead of Unanimity....

EU Commission takes aim at national veto powers

British influence in the EU Council of Ministers - Full Fact