Freedom of Movement to be replaced by

[NotAllThere]

...'people who apply for passports & licenses, open bank accounts, contract through agencies, hire cars, rent homes, rent offices, apply for mortgages, get married... tolerate a form of ID card' - but we do not have an ID card system in the UK.

FTFY. HTH. BIFDI.

[Bean]

FTFY. HTH. BIFDI.

Bank account without photo ID;
https://www.nationwide.co.uk/support...identification
https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.u...a-bank-account

marriage without photo ID;
https://www.haringey.gov.uk/births-d...il-partnership

mortgage without photo ID;
https://www.thetipton.co.uk/our-mort...dentification/
https://www.nationwide.co.uk/support...-your-identity

If you're going to try & ftfy a post - at least get it right NAT.

Suffice to say, nope - the UK doesn't have a (mandatory) 'ID card system', although there are forms of photo ID available, if people wish to have them.

[darmstadt]

Although if you want to drink in a lot of pubs, visit clubs and so on and look young (although their oldest 'customer' is 97) then there is this:

https://validateuk.co.uk/

Not official government but accepted...

[meridian]

ID card systems are mandatory, or the 'ID card system' doesn't work.
Passports & driving licenses are not mandatory, therefore cannot be used as an 'ID card', for the purposes of an ID card system.
National Insurance cards are NOT a form of ID, precisely because they lack a photo.

You may be able to say something along the lines of, 'people who apply for passports & licenses tolerate a form of ID card' - but we do not have an ID card system in the UK.

HTH BIDI.

Wrong again. ID card “systems” are not mandatory.

However, if you want to be a functioning member of society you need to be able to prove your entitlement to certain things.

Look under 25 and want to purchase age-restricted material (cigarettes, alcohol, get into a club, etc)? Better have photo ID.

Stopped by the police? Better be able to prove who you are, by whatever means.

Want to rent a flat? You’ll need to prove that you are legally resident in the U.K.

Want to drive or hire a car? You’ll need a licence.

Etc.

You’ve interpreted having an ID card as being a one-card system, but it doesn’t need to be that way. It also doesn’t mean that any cards are mandatory - people can surely live life without them, but for many things in life you either need an ID card of some form or you miss out.

[NotAllThere]

... the UK doesn't have a (mandatory) 'ID card system', ...

No one denies that. The point is that life in the UK if you don't have ID is more complex than if you do.

[meridian]

Suffice to say, nope - the UK doesn't have a (mandatory) 'ID card system',

And again, separately, because you seem to be having trouble comprehending this.

Nobody is saying that the U.K. has a mandatory ID card system.

although there are forms of photo ID available, if people wish to have them.

By Jove, I think he’s finally got it. Almost.

There are also many forms of photo (or not) ID that are required to be seen by third parties, whether people wish to have them or not, if those people want to partake in particular goods or services.

[Whorty]

And again, separately, because you seem to be having trouble comprehending this.

Nobody is saying that the U.K. has a mandatory ID card system.



By Jove, I think he’s finally got it. Almost.

There are also many forms of photo (or not) ID that are required to be seen by third parties, whether people wish to have them or not, if those people want to partake in particular goods or services.

Chaps, no point arguing with Bean past 5 o'clock as he won't be around again now until Monday morning at 9 o'clock. Love to know what he does for a job that he is only allowed on this forum during normal work hours.

[darmstadt]

Chaps, no point arguing with Bean past 5 o'clock as he won't be around again now until Monday morning at 9 o'clock. Love to know what he does for a job that he is only allowed on this forum during normal work hours.

Trainee PFY...

[WTFH]

Trainee PFY...

No.
PFY has his uses.

I’m thinking trainee junior HR management

[Whorty]

I think he stays off here when he gets home as he's embarrassed to tell his Mom, partner, dog, that he voted leave and he doesn't want them seeing him on here posting his leaver dribble.