Originally posted by VelcroPower
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To the foaming mad Brexiters crying foul that democracy has been thwarted...
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Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much. -
Originally posted by VelcroPower View PostYou can find out if it's true or not by reading a bit further down the article...
"No other country has confirmed any increased commitments as yet."
Hence my use of the word 'if' in my original post.
Still, I guess Macron has effectively confirmed, that the EU as a whole will have to up spending on defence, ~6.6% of EU GDP.Originally posted by Old GregI admit I'm just a lazy, lying cretinous hypocrite and must be going deaf♕Keep calm & carry on♕Comment
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Originally posted by Bean View PostWhat, you think I should have included an assumption that states currently spending over 2% will reduce their spending?
I was merely pointing out, that if all EU NATO countries met their spending commitments (2% of gdp), then the debt to gdp of the EU would be ~6.6% higher, than it currently stands at.
That being said, what if Trump demands all the other NATO members contribute at least 2% of GDP? - I believe that tips it the other way, given that only 3 EU countries currently spend >=2% of GDP on defence...“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostNo I think it is this bit you got wrong:
So a difference of 0.29%, ok so, ~6.3% of GDP spending is now required, before the whole EU is meeting the NATO 'club' defence spending requirements.Originally posted by Old GregI admit I'm just a lazy, lying cretinous hypocrite and must be going deaf♕Keep calm & carry on♕Comment
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Originally posted by Bean View PostOh I see, sorry, yes quite possibly - but the figures I saw stated Lithuania spending was estimated to be at ~1.77% (Possibly for 2017 - are your figures for 2018?).
So a difference of 0.29%, ok so, ~6.3% of GDP spending is now required, before the whole EU is meeting the NATO 'club' defence spending requirements.
Typical whingers complaining they have to pay their way, as we know its perfectly unreasonable for the US to demand they pay! What cretins the US must be....
I bet they would be the same if the US demanded they settled their bar bill.
I suppose in the divorce France & Germany will demand their Uniforms & a few tanks for free?
I really don't know why you thick as mince remainers can't understand something as simple as this and demand special treatment for protection of your Croissant, Bratwurst & Olive oil futures??
any analogies I missed?Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by Bean View PostTo be fair to myself, the article has been updated and I think at the time the following sentence followed the one I quoted;
"No other country has confirmed any increased commitments as yet."
Hence my use of the word 'if' in my original post.
Still, I guess Macron has effectively confirmed, that the EU as a whole will have to up spending on defence, ~6.6% of EU GDP.
By definition, it is still 2% overall?Comment
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Originally posted by meridian View PostMaybe I’m missing something, but how could every EU country increasing their defence expenditure to 2% add up to 6.6% of GDP?
By definition, it is still 2% overall?…Maybe we ain’t that young anymoreComment
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I do remember this warning:
UK to go to the back of the queue
It's not so much that the UK will go to the back of the queue as have the door slammed in its face.Last edited by BlasterBates; 13 July 2018, 06:52.I'm alright JackComment
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostI do remember this warning:
UK to go to the back of the queue
It's not so much that the UK will go to the back of the queue as have the door slammed in its face.
This is only happening because the proposal is not a hard Brexit. It’s the EU’s fault.
But the realist would say:
Trump is disappointed that the US will not be able to treat the UK as a vassal state.…Maybe we ain’t that young anymoreComment
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Originally posted by Bean View PostOh I see, sorry, yes quite possibly - but the figures I saw stated Lithuania spending was estimated to be at ~1.77% (Possibly for 2017 - are your figures for 2018?).
So a difference of 0.29%, ok so, ~6.3% of GDP spending is now required, before the whole EU is meeting the NATO 'club' defence spending requirements.
But I'm still intrigued - your figure of 6.6% - did you just add up all the % differences? If so, you're doing the sums incorrectly.…Maybe we ain’t that young anymoreComment
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