Whole world says brexit is bad for UK

[BrilloPad]

I've been over this a thousand times read up on it. Goldman Sachs, faked a few docs, yep that's right, that's it. Everyone knew Greece could not pay its debt, everyone. Read up on how it was the debt crisis in Greece was handled, mainly be Germany and the IMF. Then tell me how benign the EU is.

You will repeat it about 10,000 times before those thicko remoaners understand.

At least it keeps them clear of the decent posters in general.....

[northernladyuk]

Well I guess if you live in Greece you could say it's a cruel form of rule. Guess, if you are one of the millions in Spain unemployed and not able to afford sun-cream, then you would say its a cruel form of government. I could go on, and usually do.

Either of there countries could leave the EU if they chose to. That is not a tyranny.

[northernladyuk]

When Greece(and Ireland come to that) needed higher interest rates, they got lower interest rates as it suited Germany.

Germany benefits from artificially lower Euro - that Greece lives in poverty is fine with them.

If Germany was not full of goose-stepping tyrannical Nazis, they would have a Merkel plan. Like the Marshall plan. Then Greece would spend 65% of its income. At the moment it is weighed down with interest payments.

I expect to be carried off to the gas chamber shortly. Dissenters must be eradicated. I would rather be ruled by the Daleks than Germany(which is what the EU is).

You appear to be deranged. It is the formerly Hitler and Moseley supporting Daily Mail that is running the Nazi inspired anti dissent campaign in the name of Brexit.

[woohoo]

Either of there countries could leave the EU if they chose to. That is not a tyranny.

They may well leave, but it's the elite that prosper and control. It's the banks that control Project fear is paid for by the people with the cash.

[Eirikur]

Either of there countries could leave the EU if they chose to. That is not a tyranny.

Exaclty. North Koreans will be shot if they flee North Korea, that's tyranny

[northernladyuk]

They may well leave, but it's the elite that prosper and control. It's the banks that control Project fear is paid for by the people with the cash.

The EU is like the UK in that they are both principally run for the benefit of the ruling class. But neither is a tyranny.

[woohoo]

The EU is like the UK in that they are both principally run for the benefit of the ruling class. But neither is a tyranny.

cruel and oppressive government or rule - you could argue this if you lived in Greece etc.

[original PM]

Either of there countries could leave the EU if they chose to. That is not a tyranny.

Yes because it's that easy.

Step 1 - Say you want to leave.
Step 2 - Pick the toys up and put them back in the EU's pram
Step 3 - Pay a bill they make up so they will at least start negotiations
Step 4 - Keep going back to negotiations as goalposts keep moving
Step 5 - Go back to step 2

Just because they are not physically putting the jackboot of oppression on your neck it does not mean you have the freedom you should expect.

And what does the future hold?

Does Germany want everyone in the EU to be on an equal footing or does that only come if they accept Germany as their overlords?

[darmstadt]

Yes because it's that easy.

Step 1 - Say you want to leave.
Step 2 - Pick the toys up and put them back in the EU's pram
Step 3 - Pay a bill they make up so they will at least start negotiations
Step 4 - Keep going back to negotiations as goalposts keep moving
Step 5 - Go back to step 2

Just because they are not physically putting the jackboot of oppression on your neck it does not mean you have the freedom you should expect.

And what does the future hold?

Does Germany want everyone in the EU to be on an equal footing or does that only come if they accept Germany as their overlords?

You're on drugs aren't you?

[meridian]

You're on drugs aren't you?

There’s this really weird thing going on in Little Englander’s heads, where on the one hand they see Britain as being held back by the EU and we could be so much bigger and brighter on the world stage, and yet they see the EU as Germany holding all the cards and making the rules, and forcing Britain to follow them.

If Britain can’t hold it’s own within the EU, how do they think we’ll survive outside the EU in the big bad world where we’re no longer protected by Germany’s might?