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How the EU is making a successful Brexit Difficult

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  • sasguru
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    Originally posted by meridian View Post
    Point of order: despite what you might read in the Daily Mail, the EU have not presented any such bill.

    The estimated bill is an estimate by the FT, not the EU.

    https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...u-divorce-bill
    Quite. Still it makes the Brexiter cretins and useful idiots froth at the mouth, such that when they're given a bill of 60 billion, they'll accept it with relief.

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    The EU have presented the UK bill, obviously the UK doesn't want to pay the bill so Boris Johnson coined the term "punishment beating". However the bill is in line with International Law.

    It is a bit like going into a bar, buying a round of drinks and walking out without paying.

    My advice is for everyone is to tighten their belts, save up and pay their "bar bill".

    Point of order: despite what you might read in the Daily Mail, the EU have not presented any such bill.

    The estimated bill is an estimate by the FT, not the EU.

    https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...u-divorce-bill

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by squarepeg View Post
    Oh, no. Who will lead the DExEU when he's gone? And how long will it take to find his replacement?
    May has already worked out his replacement while on holiday....

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  • squarepeg
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    Originally posted by chopper View Post
    If you are right, there is no way at all, whatsoever, that it would have any name other than May's name on it. The May-Barnier Agreement.

    I do wonder if Davis will even be the SoSeeU in the next government. May will have a much larger pool to choose from.
    Oh, no. Who will lead the DExEU when he's gone? And how long will it take to find his replacement?

    I noticed that DExEU has just published the Welsh translation of the Policy Paper published in English on 2 Feb 2017... Didn't take them long at all.

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  • chopper
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    Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
    the historic Barnier-Davis agreement.
    If you are right, there is no way at all, whatsoever, that it would have any name other than May's name on it. The May-Barnier Agreement.

    I do wonder if Davis will even be the SoSeeU in the next government. May will have a much larger pool to choose from.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    I have and the talks will founder on the free movement issue.
    They are poles apart on that.
    No free movement=no access to single market=hard Brexit=firms relocating for bigger markets and access to talent= end of the UK as a viable world economic player.
    Not it won't.

    The free movement principle has some safe guards in it which British governments of all political colours have decided not to implement e.g. the fact if you can't support yourself you can be deported like beggars of a certain ethnic group from countries that are newer in the EU. The UK government will simply say they will implement them and claim victory then every now and then do a Sarkozy and dump that group on buses to go home.

    It's a complete fudge which is one of the reasons Mrs May has decided to go to the polls. She wants a bigger Tory majority to shut up the hard Brexiters plus the Remainers in her own party. She knows Corbyn is weak and people don't like him hence her going for the Labour vote with energy caps and workers rights. Plus the Tory election campaign mentions Conservatives in small letters.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
    There will be great herds of Unicorns roaming the woodlands of the country, sweeping majestically across the vales.

    In fact, by 2030 there will be so many of them the government will consider a cull.
    Why wait? Govt will start culling right after the election - the first for the chop are the so-called middle classes, almost as rare as unicorns...

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  • squarepeg
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    UK : Lets talk. WE should aim to get the best deal possible for both of us.
    EU : We will only talk about what we want to talk about. Any deal must be approved by 28 individual governments. And in any deal the UK must suffer - punishment for daring to stand up to the 4th Reich.
    I thought the EU was ready, but the UK wanted to have a GE first... no?
    Last edited by squarepeg; 15 May 2017, 19:01.

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  • OwlHoot
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    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    I have and the talks will founder on the free movement issue.

    They are poles apart on that.

    No free movement = no access to single market = hard Brexit ...
    WHS (up to the part I snipped)

    On the subject of free movement, the EU's doctrinaire dogmatic obstinacy knows no bounds.

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
    Clearly you haven't read them very well.

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    I am not sure that sasguru's "Spot the Dog" pop-up version, covered all of the subtleties that comprehensively to be fair.

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