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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterscot View Post
    Exactly, the UK is a leading contributor. But that contribution will go up in smoke with Mayhem in charge. The integration of EU traffic control is an EU initiative with many members.

    Used to work in Swanwick and West Drayton back in the day and again in 05/06 was it... then hoping over to the continent in pursuit of 'single European sky project'. The money that has already been poured into that endeavour... It is one project I recall that is dependent upon free movement more than others. I don't see how it can continue in a meaningful manner without FoM. It needs efficiency to work.
    Pretty sure we collaborated with the rest of Europe a few times before the EU existed and people were firing at us & everything. Obviously things like the Gold Standard & workers moving across Europe before world war one are figments of the historian's imagination? Mrs May could be a poor prime minister but lets be serious Jezzy or Clegg would be 100 times worse. Remember in the Kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is king!


    So a Tier 1 migrant visa is unable to solve the issue working between MDCs with good education & criminal records yet we can get 100s of thousands of Indians with degrees off the back of a Cereal packet from a country renowned for corruption in public office in key positions throughout the UK? A visa waiver system like the USA for employees that travel less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterscot View Post
    So what if it isn't?

    The EU is only 40 years old. Lets fix it. Lets not run away. By comparison the UK is 300 years old, what's our excuse? Back in the day before 1832 only landlords who reached a certain waste size were allowed to vote. And then it took an age and a half before woman had the same right. Are we inpatient, resentful, or perhaps hate it when others succeed where we have failed?
    The founding six nations have the best deal in the EU and the rest have progressively worse deals.



    If Germany and France et al give up their privileged extras and have totally the same deal as the rest then maybe, maybe there is hope for the EU project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterscot View Post
    Not so sure. People vote blue or red. The mainstream parties differ little. People will not vote for what the believe because defeat is known. So instead vote down the party you don't want has become the norm. In this type of democracy change is very much at the back of the queue. A good reason, in part, why major infrastructure projects never get off the ground, so to speak.

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    Actually that is incorrect. Some people vote Blue or Red many however cross the divide for a great politician.

    Britain a nation of swing voters as age of tribal politics comes to an end | The Independent

    Almost one in four people switched their allegiance between the 2010 and 2015 elections the highest proportion on record and three times as many as 50 years ago according to fresh research from the British Election Study (BES).
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