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  • speling bee
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    Just another thought...

    If you are a Company Director and claiming JSA having laid yourself off (as an employee), when looking for contract work (rather than a job), does that count as working while claiming JSA, and therefore benefit fraud?

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  • SpontaneousOrder
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    Intuitively though, ignoring the legality of it all, it strikes me as a very 'disguised employee' kind of thing to do.
    I wouldn't try to map it to IR35 criteria though - it's (deliberately?) bonkers at it's simplest.

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  • SussexSeagull
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    Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View Post
    Although, that logic works both ways. It would be entirely consistent to moan about being taxed and then to reclaim what was taken from you via whatever means, including JSA.

    I'm all for bankrupting the state, but in this instance I struggle to sympathise because i've too much self-pride in what I'm trying to achieve as a business.
    This is getting somewhat off topic but somewhere along the line benefits changed from being the last resort to the government giving subsidies to business (tax credits and housing benefit) and giving tax rebates to certain lifestyle choices (Child Benefit to the middle classes).

    Needs refocusing on tiding people without savings over who are between jobs and helping those who genuinely can't work for medical reasons.

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  • SpontaneousOrder
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    Originally posted by SussexSeagull View Post
    If you do claim JSA when you don't really need it (i.e. you can live until your next contract without it), then don't moan next time you pay tax.
    Although, that logic works both ways. It would be entirely consistent to moan about being taxed and then to reclaim what was taken from you via whatever means, including JSA.

    I'm all for bankrupting the state, but in this instance I struggle to sympathise because i've too much self-pride in what I'm trying to achieve as a business.

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  • SussexSeagull
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    If you do claim JSA when you don't really need it (i.e. you can live until your next contract without it), then don't moan next time you pay tax.

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  • speling bee
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    A little bit of hassle to start with admitedly. After that its 10 mins every two weeks.

    To be honest, if at the beginning you know its going to be two weeks then dont bother but its no good thinking 6 months down the line- tulipe thats £72 x 26 = £1872 I just wasted. Would have paid the mortgage for a few more months at least if I had that now.
    I'm very taken by the idea of benefits not claimed being money wasted. You really should be the poster child of Broken Britain . You could even have your own Channel 4 documentary series. Skivor the Whingin'.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    FTFY

    £72 and I dont give a toss.
    Point proven.

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  • psychocandy
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    Originally posted by TheDandy View Post
    Apart from anything else it sounds like a load of hassle to me.
    A little bit of hassle to start with admitedly. After that its 10 mins every two weeks.

    To be honest, if at the beginning you know its going to be two weeks then dont bother but its no good thinking 6 months down the line- tulipe thats £72 x 26 = £1872 I just wasted. Would have paid the mortgage for a few more months at least if I had that now.

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  • psychocandy
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    This is true but if you are in a situation where 50 quid a week means something to you and you can deal with the morals/ethics of it it does (arguably) appear it is possible. Question is would you be daft enough to tell a load of strangers who you'll probably never meet and who you know are full of tulip anyway and probably do it themselves by being proud of doing it and defending it.
    FTFY

    £72 and I dont give a toss.
    Last edited by psychocandy; 20 June 2014, 22:18.

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  • psychocandy
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    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    I'm not sure it's been asked before, but I'm sure that someone will know the answer.

    When a contract comes to an end, I know of someone who then makes themselves redundant so that they can claim job seekers allowance.

    Does that not indicate that for the duration of the previous contract they saw themselves as being employed by the client because as soon as the contract ends they sign on?
    Got absolutely **** all to do with it. You are employed by your own company obviously.

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