Contractor working 2 jobs at the same time

[tarbera]

Man alive

While my mate has recently got a new contract we realised that the same contractor is working two contracts at the same time

As one job is working from home and the other one is not much observed and he just shows up 2 days a week and works the rest from home.

What are the legal requirement for this? Shouldn't he not be bounded by contract not to work two roles at the same time? Both jobs are full time contracts.

Morally I think it’s wrong as he is trying to offload his work onto his co-workers and he is cashing in double day rate with doing the bare minimum?

your point is what.?

[DirtyDog]

I think this is a good helper with IR35 status

You're wrong there.

[stek]

While my mate has recently got a new contract we realised that the same contractor is working two contracts at the same time

As one job is working from home and the other one is not much observed and he just shows up 2 days a week and works the rest from home.

What are the legal requirement for this? Shouldn't he not be bounded by contract not to work two roles at the same time? Both jobs are full time contracts.

Morally I think it’s wrong as he is trying to offload his work onto his co-workers and he is cashing in double day rate with doing the bare minimum?

He's probably more efficient than you.

[northernladuk]

It's called "Business". As long as he's delivering that needs to be delivered when it's needed, who cares?

But being in business means you would be aware of your situation and not 'realise' you are working two contracts. This is more towards stupidity than business I would have said.

[northernladuk]

I think this is a good helper with IR35 status and it is my duty to my shareholders to maximise profit if I can.

IR35 is on a contract by contract basis. One could be in, one could be out etc. It is good for the Business Entity Tests which are a first indicator as to whether or not HMRC come looking for you though.

[northernladuk]

He has one job - working for his Ltd / umbrella. He has multiple clients, who all seem to be happy with his work - if they aren't then the client should be pursuing this, with a view to possible termination.

And legal action if they feel particularly aggrieved at his actions. If he is invoicing per day and not clearly not working the day he is committing fraud and theft, neither of which a client will take lying down. I would like to see him getting further work with fraud against clients on his records.... Stupid move.

[jamesbrown]

As others have said, it's for the clients to decide whether the contracts are being delivered. It's not uncommon to have two or more concurrent contracts, especially if one or more of them are FFP.

[malvolio]

And legal action if they feel particularly aggrieved at his actions. If he is invoicing per day and not clearly not working the day he is committing fraud and theft, neither of which a client will take lying down. I would like to see him getting further work with fraud against clients on his records.... Stupid move.

You maybe need to research the meaning of "Professional Working Day". If I do any work for a client in any 24 hour period, I am entitled to charge them the agreed PWD rate. The trick is to keep the six hour days more numerous than the 20 hour ones.

[Sausage Surprise]

really so you think its ok that some one does the bare minimum and cashes in double?

Yes and I am a proper contractor. I deliver on time and all my clients are happy with my work for years. And that is what a proper contrcator should be.

But for you a proper contractor just seems to be take the money and run?

No. Proper contracting for me means I'm a business. I may provide my services to one client for a full week but that doesn't stop me advertising my services elsewhere. For example I also repair PCs as well being a test manager. So, multiple income streams through my ltd means I'm a business. That's what contracting is about for me.

[Boney M]

I have multiple contracts at any one time. Right now, I have two massive clients (one banking, one in oil) who between them employ over 240,000 employees worldwide. Both would like me to work as full time as possible. Both understand I have other clients. The thing is, I'm not bad at what I do, and can sometimes do a piece of analysis and work in 2 hours which would ordinarily take four days to achieve. So I bill based partly on time worked and partly on output/time the client has saved.

So sometimes I do bill full days for both clients, even though I might only have worked for seven hours in a day. I look at what I have honestly achieved that day and determine whether I am comfortable billing a full or half day for each client. Some days, I don't bill at all, others I bill lots. Both my clients are very happy with the output.

The only challenge is limiting the amount of meetings I'm asked to attend.

I call my approach: business. I'd personally keep your nose out of things that don't concern you. Don't mean to be harsh, but it's quite possible that this chap is doing really well and people are happy with him.

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