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Hays HSR20 and IR35

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    #21
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    Last edited by Bumfluff; 9 January 2012, 14:09.

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      #22
      Originally posted by TestMangler View Post
      Is that a sweeping generalisation or a statement you'd be prepared to stand by if stood in a boxing ring with someone from B&C ?????
      It was a sweeping generalisation based on my experience (nearly 2 years ago). I've just spoken to the team who review contracts and they say a minority of the Hays agreements they get now are compliant, but most are still rubbish. I guess it must depend on the agent/branch/end client you are dealing with.

      I like the people at B&C, so I would avoid being in a boxing ring with them if at all possible. It would also be a weird way of discussing a contract.
      Qdos Contractor - IR35 experts

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        #23
        Originally posted by Qdos Consulting View Post
        It was a sweeping generalisation based on my experience (nearly 2 years ago). I've just spoken to the team who review contracts and they say a minority of the Hays agreements they get now are compliant, but most are still rubbish. I guess it must depend on the agent/branch/end client you are dealing with.

        I like the people at B&C, so I would avoid being in a boxing ring with them if at all possible. It would also be a weird way of discussing a contract.
        It must depend on the agency/branch/end client then as i've seen changes made to the HIT20 following review by B&C and I've also had a couple of subsequest Hays contracts reviewed by them and their assesment doesn't match your original assertion. Just saying like.

        By the way, I'm from Glasgow. All contract negotiations are best done in a boxing ring
        When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....

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          #24
          Originally posted by TestMangler View Post
          It must depend on the agency/branch/end client then as i've seen changes made to the HIT20 following review by B&C and I've also had a couple of subsequest Hays contracts reviewed by them and their assesment doesn't match your original assertion. Just saying like.

          By the way, I'm from Glasgow. All contract negotiations are best done in a boxing ring
          Ok, well it's good news if they are starting to change. Let's hope they roll out the compliant version for everyone before long, because that substitution clause has been a right pain over the years.

          If it's Glaswegians we're talking about then surely a kebab shop would be a more appropriate battleground? (I also have Glaswegian heritage btw)
          Qdos Contractor - IR35 experts

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            #25
            Originally posted by Qdos Consulting View Post
            Ok, well it's good news if they are starting to change. Let's hope they roll out the compliant version for everyone before long, because that substitution clause has been a right pain over the years.

            If it's Glaswegians we're talking about then surely a kebab shop would be a more appropriate battleground? (I also have Glaswegian heritage btw)
            The changes I refer to were made in 2005, if I recall.

            Kebab shop, chippy, taxi queue. You can have an impromptu boxing ring anywhere
            When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....

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              #26
              Thanks folks, had it reviewed by my accountant.

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                #27
                Originally posted by cmscotland View Post
                Thanks folks, had it reviewed by my accountant.
                Your accountant is a contract law specialist ?????
                When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....

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