The survey on the HMRC Consultation regarding Travel Expenses is up

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Anyone??

We had a survey running which has now closed which got 700 responses - if you and others would like to put something together to register your disapproval and the reasons why I'll be happy to add your comments to our consultation submission - you'll just need to do it quickly as there are only a few days before it closes. You can email me [email protected]

[Martin Scroatman]

I still speak to other contractors who know nothing about these proposals & it would be good to be able to direct them somewhere where they can register their disapproval.

Perhaps there's an ePetition for this?

Anyone??

[northernladuk]

I work in a Department that has about 30 contractors. Most live within a 30 minute drive of the office. Most of them dont see the 'loss' of expenses as any great deal.

When I said well what about when you're not 30 minutes drive away and staying in a hotel \ B&B \ digs?

They looked at me as if Id grown 2 heads.

I've been in a place like that. Most were ex permies with a notable number of them that had never worked anywhere else. They won't care as most of them passed the 24 month threshold a number of years ago anyway. If there was a heaven on earth for HMRC this was it lol.

[SueEllen]

I work in a Department that has about 30 contractors. Most live within a 30 minute drive of the office. Most of them dont see the 'loss' of expenses as any great deal.

When I said well what about when you're not 30 minutes drive away and staying in a hotel \ B&B \ digs?

They looked at me as if Id grown 2 heads.

Are they new contractors?

Oddly even the new contractors I spoke to worked in different locations as permies so understood about expenses.

[BolshieBastard]

I still speak to other contractors who know nothing about these proposals & it would be good to be able to direct them somewhere where they can register their disapproval.

Perhaps there's an ePetition for this?

I work in a Department that has about 30 contractors. Most live within a 30 minute drive of the office. Most of them dont see the 'loss' of expenses as any great deal.

When I said well what about when you're not 30 minutes drive away and staying in a hotel \ B&B \ digs?

They looked at me as if Id grown 2 heads.

[Martin Scroatman]

The IPSE survey closed on 13 September - and it was changed to members only.

I still speak to other contractors who know nothing about these proposals & it would be good to be able to direct them somewhere where they can register their disapproval.

Perhaps there's an ePetition for this?

[mudskipper]

This link doesn't link to the survey - it just goes to a generic news page.

On that page there is an item titled "Take part in our policy survey" but that includes a load of questions about the EU referendum & other stuff as well as the T&S proposals.

Do they have a survey solely concentrating on T&S?

If not, they're clearly not taking it seriously enough.

The IPSE survey closed on 13 September - and it was changed to members only.

[Martin Scroatman]

Please respond to IPSE's consultation too - you don't need to be a member to do so.

https://www.ipse.co.uk/news/2015/tra...-want-hear-you

This link doesn't link to the survey - it just goes to a generic news page.

On that page there is an item titled "Take part in our policy survey" but that includes a load of questions about the EU referendum & other stuff as well as the T&S proposals.

Do they have a survey solely concentrating on T&S?

If not, they're clearly not taking it seriously enough.

[OnYourBikeGB]

Sorry but I heard this all before from NTRT. They finally gave up on petitioning government when they realized they only get a HMRC response. I think it took about 4 years. Now their only hope is TAA(The agency argument, commonly known as George).

We are now all tax evading scum.

The only way is to change your business model to survive. Preferably by going abroad.

Fathers 4 justice achieved a lot more. Huge leaps were made. Though nothing since they went quiet.

I'm afraid I have to agree. Writing to MPs and so on will result in a lot of false hope, because when push comes to shove they will fall into line even when they make all the right noises. There's a few brave and decent enough to stand up and speak out, but the process of trying to get your voice heard is a very long and complex one, and very likely doomed. I know I was completely bewildered by the complexity of trying to do anything against S58 so many levels and in the end they all vote along party lines anyway. Take Guake, for example. We had over 850 letters protesting the APN changes, I think 450 were from professional bodies. Or as he put it during the debate, more than 20. No-one, even those that knew the truth, said a thing.

The Government controls every method of spin going, they will label you, blame you, shame you and ignore you, they'll even say how it's only fair that you pay as everyone else does, despite MPs having full expenses, travel and second homes paid for by the taxpayer.

Contractors need to unite to fight this sort of legislation but don't make the mistake we did over in S58 thinking that there's fairness in the system and justice will triumph after a good clean fight, because it just won't.

[BrilloPad]

Sorry but I heard this all before from NTRT. They finally gave up on petitioning government when they realized they only get a HMRC response. I think it took about 4 years. Now their only hope is TAA(The agency argument, commonly known as George).

We are now all tax evading scum.

The only way is to change your business model to survive. Preferably by going abroad.

Fathers 4 justice achieved a lot more. Huge leaps were made. Though nothing since they went quiet.