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Originally posted by Munchers View PostAs I've said we paid for a seperate tax consultant to write our submission. From which he argued our case based on MOO, right of substitute and Control. I might not know much about this but I know enough, to never talk to HMRC without professional advice!Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by ChimpMaster View PostSo on a 'rolling' contract, don't you have to still sign a new contract? Or was it just like a 'statement of works' that you signed every 6 months?
Some good advice on CUK a while back led to me changing the contract terms and objectives every on renewal. I also do my best to ensure that the underlying day-to-day tasks change, as much as is realistic anyway.
Having done a long stint at a client I found I had to work pretty hard at keeping the client/contractor relationship and I know for a fact a large majority of others in the same position didn't.
As for MOO, for those contractors that take holidays mid-contract: when planning a holiday, rather than informing the client that you will be taking 2 weeks off in August etc, wouldn't it be a good idea to get the client to write an email to you advising that they have no work for you during August and won't need your services for those 2 weeks?
Edit: on the MOO question, this is like all the banks forcing contractors to have 10 consecutive days out of the office and off the network. I had to do this at the bank I was contracted at.
I don't believe this is MoO anyway. I thought MoO was offering more work once the assignment was complete. There has been loads of discussion about it and still not 100% sure. Forcing contractors to take holidays is a contractual issue, not one of MoO IMO.Last edited by northernladuk; 8 July 2014, 10:50.Leave a comment:
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I've been through an IR35 investigation and won but wouldn't give advice without knowing all the details. I would recommend joining PCG+ and handing over to them as soon as the brown envelope hits your doormat.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by ChimpMaster View PostAs for MOO, for those contractors that take holidays mid-contract: when planning a holiday, rather than informing the client that you will be taking 2 weeks off in August etc, wouldn't it be a good idea to get the client to write an email to you advising that they have no work for you during August and won't need your services for those 2 weeks?
You'd be better sending an email stating "I will be personally unable to provide services during these dates, but if it would be convenient for you, <myco> will provide a suitable replacement during this time".Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostI hope to god you don't have to submit any written evidence for your case.Leave a comment:
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So on a 'rolling' contract, don't you have to still sign a new contract? Or was it just like a 'statement of works' that you signed every 6 months?
Some good advice on CUK a while back led to me changing the contract terms and objectives every on renewal. I also do my best to ensure that the underlying day-to-day tasks change, as much as is realistic anyway.
As for MOO, for those contractors that take holidays mid-contract: when planning a holiday, rather than informing the client that you will be taking 2 weeks off in August etc, wouldn't it be a good idea to get the client to write an email to you advising that they have no work for you during August and won't need your services for those 2 weeks?
Edit: on the MOO question, this is like all the banks forcing contractors to have 10 consecutive days out of the office and off the network. I had to do this at the bank I was contracted at.Last edited by ChimpMaster; 8 July 2014, 10:36.Leave a comment:
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Discretion and Control
Few posting here seem to have much control.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by centurian View PostYes, they are only allowed to initially look back at the past year. However, if they find anything in that return (they have), they are allowed to look back over the past 6 years (sometimes longer, but I doubt that would apply).
Ouch, that's not good
Okay, you may have to forget about Mutuality of Obligation - you may have torpedoed that one. Focus on the other two - Right of Substitution and Discretion & Control.
MOO may not be a lost cause if there were any periods during that time where work was not offered or was not accepted. Depends on how the OP handled leave and sickness and WFH in practice.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by Munchers View PostTo clarify, investigation only started about 6 weeks where they asked for info evidence to as to why I was outside IR35. They're looking at one year only but I was trying to establish my risk ie how many years.
Originally posted by Munchers View PostI have had two contracts over the last 6 years. The last contract was rolled on every 6 months as I was asked to do more work. I realise now and accept this is a basic mistake, I should have got a new contract signed each time.
Okay, you may have to forget about Mutuality of Obligation - you may have torpedoed that one. Focus on the other two - Right of Substitution and Discretion & Control.Leave a comment:
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