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    Hi there

    I don't want to give many details away over what I do, but the bulk of the work I do at the moment (probably too much, but trying to change this) is for one company, as a contractor (I have had to set up as a Ltd Company) working through a third-party. All too common.
    I currently fill in a timesheet to say how many hours I have worked and that is signed off.
    Now, the company has deployed MyTime and is insisting I fill in the same level of hourly detail as the employees in the firm. This seems all wrong to me. I am not an employee, as a big firm they will have layers of protection to stop themselves looking like my employee. This has not come through the third-party (a big manpower etc firm) but direct from the company who I produce the work for.
    Any advice with how to approach this would be welcome. I don't think I should fill in such detailed forms.

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    Are you paid per day or hourly?

    If you are paid per day then then the extra hours don't matter. They probably use the time sheet for tracking project hours and your cost so just putting in the base level of time, which happens to be the same as the permies is the standard way to go.

    Just because something could be the same as a permie it doesn't mean you look like one. It just happens you are booking the same time as them to suit the clients system. The same directive will be for anyone using the system, 3rd party suppliers as well so it's affects everyone. It's a very very small flag and most certainly not one to be rocking the boat with your client over.

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    Make sure all tasks are related to work that you have been contracted to do; that's the key way for you to stay outside IR35. If you've been brought in to provide expertise on two projects, they'll probably want to know the best way of charging you back to the two projects and x hours a week booked by you on Project 1 and y hours a week booked by you on Project 2 is the fairest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    Are you paid per day or hourly?

    If you are paid per day then then the extra hours don't matter. They probably use the time sheet for tracking project hours and your cost so just putting in the base level of time, which happens to be the same as the permies is the standard way to go.

    Just because something could be the same as a permie it doesn't mean you look like one. It just happens you are booking the same time as them to suit the clients system. The same directive will be for anyone using the system, 3rd party suppliers as well so it's affects everyone. It's a very very small flag and most certainly not one to be rocking the boat with your client over.

    Just make sure
    you have a checked contract,
    you are aware enough of IR35 not to put yourself in
    know to keep your main 3 pillars in the clear
    keep a folder of evidence of your different pass, meetings you can't attend etc and you'll be fine.
    Are you referring to SDC here ?
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    Yep, ditto the above. I've had clients ask me to fill in their internal time sheet system because I was working across four projects and they wanted to know what to cross charge to each.

    The other time sheet that I filled in, in order to get get my invoice paid, was signed off by someone I never met (I think I passed her once in the corridor).

    What I did refuse to do was fill in the 'whereabouts' system that showed whether I was on leave or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladymuck View Post
    What I did refuse to do was fill in the 'whereabouts' system that showed whether I was on leave or not

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