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    Quote Originally Posted by darrylmg View Post
    I bought a £30 crap one from Amazon.
    Hooked it up to iSpy running on a PC. Worked great. The iSpy software can be configured to only record video when movement is detected in a preconfigured area of the shot.

    I cought the youths throwing stones at my house using this setup.
    The coppers came round and looked at the footage and recognised the culprits immediately.
    They also said how the setup was not useful in court. So it depends what you want to do with the evidence.
    In your view will QH have enough "evidence" to satisfy himself that his new young neighbour is :-

    a) Indeed very young and fit.
    b) Will take him for everything he has, should he take his fantasies any further to any kind of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrylmg View Post
    I bought a £30 crap one from Amazon.
    Hooked it up to iSpy running on a PC. Worked great. The iSpy software can be configured to only record video when movement is detected in a preconfigured area of the shot.

    I cought the youths throwing stones at my house using this setup.
    The coppers came round and looked at the footage and recognised the culprits immediately.
    They also said how the setup was not useful in court. So it depends what you want to do with the evidence.
    Why did they say the setup was not useful in court?

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    Quote Originally Posted by woohoo View Post
    Why did they say the setup was not useful in court?
    My alarm man told me something similar. There are a lot of gotchas about filming people on public property without informing them. You need to have signs up informing people they are being filmed, similar to being recorded on the phone.

    Lot of problems about how the video is stored and presented to court as it's classed as data so the way it's handled/stored can be questioned.

    Also your camera's having views in to other properties houses makes it inadmissible I believe as well as the are illegally mounted so can't use the evidence etc. It's a proper minefield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeitghost View Post
    Don't forget to switch off when the postman is on his rounds.
    Ohh good call. I'd hate for the missus to find out
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    My alarm man told me something similar. There are a lot of gotchas about filming people on public property without informing them. You need to have signs up informing people they are being filmed, similar to being recorded on the phone.

    Lot of problems about how the video is stored and presented to court as it's classed as data so the way it's handled/stored can be questioned.

    Also your camera's having views in to other properties houses makes it inadmissible I believe as well as the are illegally mounted so can't use the evidence etc. It's a proper minefield.
    Yes, this ^ .
    But that didn't stop the police just having a word with those involved.
    It was only if I wanted to go to court that the evidence was inadmissible. Apparently if there was a murder and I had captured something of relevance on such a crap and possibly illegal setup, it's at the judges discretion whether to permit it's use in court as evidence. Just saying like... not got any plans, honest guv.

    Also, as a youth, I've been witness to the old dog poo on the car handle trick. My mate was naffed off with a grumpy neighbour who got the council to put up "no ball games" signs to stop us playing football on the green space outside his house. Is the OP a grumpy neighbour?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darrylmg View Post
    Is the OP a grumpy neighbour?
    I can be grumpy, but I only have one neighbour and she's a crazy cat lady.

    I did wonder if it was her who chucked the crap at my car, jury is still out, hence the camera.

    Other than that I'm all for peace and love, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    My alarm man told me something similar. There are a lot of gotchas about filming people on public property without informing them. You need to have signs up informing people they are being filmed, similar to being recorded on the phone.

    Lot of problems about how the video is stored and presented to court as it's classed as data so the way it's handled/stored can be questioned.

    Also your camera's having views in to other properties houses makes it inadmissible I believe as well as the are illegally mounted so can't use the evidence etc. It's a proper minefield.
    AIUI those rules only apply to companies and such, which have to register with the ICO and put up notices and what have you. Private individuals can do what they damn well please as long as they're not causing a nuisance, and don't have to notify anybody of anything.

    The difficulty with using such evidence in court would be establishing the chain of custody - i.e. proving that it was recorded when it is said to have been, that it hasn't been edited or otherwise tampered with, and what have you.

    A friend of mine works in the city CCTV control room here, and quite often has to go to court just to swear that video evidence being used in a case is the same video that he recorded at the time of an incident, was properly transferred to the police, and all that kind of thing. And that's with all kinds of controls and specialist equipment to prevent tampering and ensure timestamps are accurate; a defence lawyer only has to create reasonable doubt, so they could have a field day with a home CCTV setup whose clock has probably drifted by twenty-odd minutes and which is still on BST in January.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickFitz View Post
    AIUI those rules only apply to companies and such, which have to register with the ICO and put up notices and what have you. Private individuals can do what they damn well please as long as they're not causing a nuisance, and don't have to notify anybody of anything.
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    Not sure that's completely true but depends on what you mean by nuisance. There is quite a bit of guidance about using them and particular other people's privacy.

    Anything captured beyond your property is also covered by the Data Protection Act.

    It is very wooly in the section about using evidence with lots of coulds and mights going on though.

    It is only guidance (apart from the DPA bit) but there is plenty to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quackhandle View Post
    I can be grumpy, but I only have one neighbour and she's a crazy cat lady.

    I did wonder if it was her who chucked the crap at my car, jury is still out, hence the camera.

    Other than that I'm all for peace and love, man.

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    Work colleague has had their cctv used by the police when someone broke into his neighbour's house. The image was taken of his back yard with the fellow in it.

    Police said that it was the trainers caught in the images which were very distinctive rather than the face that they wanted to use.

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