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To discuss the changes to PS contracts that are due later this year.

  1. Sticky Thread Sticky: PS & IR35: Choosing a legitimate Umbrella

    If you've come here looking for advice regarding umbrella companies here it is. Choose a company that complies with HMRC guidelines and current UK legislation*. You can find a selection here: Ask an Umbrella Company - All Umbrella Companies Are Equal Some companies will offer you the moon...

    Started by cojak, 16th January 2017 21:51
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  2. Sticky Thread Sticky: Working in the public sector? An FAQ about IR35

    What's this all about then? In the 2016 Autumn Statement, the Chancellor confirmed that from the start of the following tax year (from April 6th 2017), the status of contractors / freelancers in the public sector would be assessed by the public sector body (PSB) engaging them either directly or...

    Started by TheFaQQer, 27th March 2017 08:42
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  3. Sticky Thread Sticky: Public Sector or Not?

    Hi All Is there a list somewhere to identify which organisation falls under public sector? The reason for the question is I have been put forward by the agent to couple of organisation for new role. The agent did mention that it's not public sector but I don't want to take his word at face...

    Started by londonlad, 26th January 2017 15:30
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  1. Agent - "It's that simple"

    Had a call from an agency about a PS gig. I'd rather wait until things are clearer on the IR35 thing before risking anything in the public sector, so told the agent as much and I wasn't interested. His response was that he'd enquire if it was in scope or not and if it wasn't, then I needn't...

    Started by FrontEnder, 22nd February 2017 11:19
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  2. Liability in case of wrong IR35 determinaton

    We all kind of assume/know that in case of HMRC callenging and winning an IR35 determination, the liability for any taxes/fines/interest will be with the paying link (agency, PSB). Where is this stated in any legislation?

    Started by pscont, 14th March 2017 10:47
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  3. Question Set-piece example of outside IR35

    A few days ago I used the IR35 ESS Tool and got an Outside IR35 decision. Today, I can't get a single permutation of responses that results in an outside IR35 decision. Maybe the software is broken. Maybe not. Is anyone out there able to provide a set of IR35 ESS Tool responses that...

    Started by BingoMan, 14th March 2017 10:08
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  4. IR35 PS - So anyone had the discussion yet?

    Those of us with some involvement with PS..... I've advised both agency and consultancy (who I work through at their PS client site) that something needs to be sorted. They've mentioned extension (luckily current one ends end Feb which is ideal) but I've said until its sorted its a no. ...

    Started by psychocandy, 24th January 2017 07:22
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  5. It's Not Fine -- Specific Flaws With the New IR35 Tool

    I know there are other threads running on the new tool, sorry for the duplication. This one is not intended for general discussion, but to just list specific problems that HMRC really should fix. If you add to what I've said in the comments, I'll add it to the list, if in my infinite and undying...

    Started by WordIsBond, 3rd March 2017 13:10
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  6. Best Option for 1 day/week public sector contract

    Hi all, I am entirely new to contracting, but have the option of a ~1 day per week (~£400 a week) contract supporting a government department. This is in addition to my normal PAYE employment. What is the best way to go about this? Ideally would like to minimise tax burden, but also want to...

    Started by orie1925, 13th March 2017 15:14
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    13th March 2017 16:54 Go to last post
  7. Payrolling through agency as sole trader for public sector company

    I've a contract with an organization that is deemed as a public sector company. I'm currently set up as a sole trader and able to offset business expenses as part of my self assessment. The company has gone for a risk adverse approach and are moving all contracts (Ltd and sole traders) through an...

    Started by Thomasina, 13th March 2017 09:19
    expenses, ir35, off payroll, sole trader
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  8. Question about subcontracting as a public sector contractor under new rules

    Hi, I'm working out how to satisfy substitution conditions (with it being such a big part of the new HMRC ESI tool). Strikes me that after April sub-contracting will no longer be a workable way to do that as it would make me a "paying agent" so liable to all the checks and penalties... so...

    Started by Effrafax of Wug, 12th March 2017 15:54
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  9. Is this true?

    Someone has just asked if what they've heard is accurate. I don't know if it is or not...

    Started by cojak, 10th March 2017 21:22
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  10. "HMRC will stand by the result given"

    "HMRC will stand by the result given unless a compliance check finds the information provided isnít accurate." Or not as the case may be..... Our friends at the revenue, clearly spooked by the amount of outside determinations being returned have been briefing NHS Finance Managers saying that...

    Started by Andy Hallett, 8th March 2017 14:38
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  11. Finishing 31st March, do I need an IR35 determination?

    My businesses contract ends on 31st March. The agency has said, so long as timesheets are in by then, they will get the money before 6th April. So am I right in thinking that the public sector body should not even be giving their decision on whether my business is in or out? I have 2 concerns...

    Started by willendure, 9th March 2017 14:58
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  12. Here we go...

    Business Analyst - City of Westminster - 10/03/2017 18:03:10 "IMPORTANT: THIS ROLE HAS BE DEEMED INSIDE IR35 SO YOU WILL NEED TO WORK ON AN UMBRELLA OR PAYE BASIS."

    Started by meanttobeworking, 10th March 2017 20:33
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  13. Appeal Process

    My client has yet to inform me of their verdict on the state of my contractual working if I am in or out of IR35. My concerns with all of this are because my contract is clearly outside of IR35, and has been reviewed and approved. However the people making this decision are in...

    Started by NetContractor, 9th March 2017 12:12
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  14. New ruler and PSC

    One of the big 4 consultancies announced today that every LTD contractor working under PSC will not be affected by the new rules. I am not even sure I fully understand what PSC is, but they confirmed the contractor is LTD. I am missing something, but what? So how can this be true?

    Started by pscont, 8th March 2017 16:11
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  15. Public Sector body change of role and new contract..

    Morning all My current contract for a role finishes at the end of March. There is a chance I would be able to stay at the same public sector organisation but in a completely different role in a different part of the business. Now obviously no ones for sure, but if I took a week off so finished...

    Started by 225c, 9th March 2017 09:00
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  16. John McDonnell pot calling kettle black self employed NI increase

    I have just heard John McDonnell on Radio PM program say to the effect that the increase tax of self employed is unfair because the do not get any benefits. In this a case of the pot calling the kettle black ? I did not any complains from labour when IR35 was introduced! As I recall it was...

    Started by Bheleu, 9th March 2017 06:51
    budget, ir35, self employed
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  17. So ... when will we know??

    I've been following the forum and recent activities avidly, reading the law, speaking to my agency and boss ... and I'm still none the wiser! When will we know, or is it now determined, that it's going live on 6.4.17 and what is happening with the tool? My agency said today that it is not the...

    Started by hollyblue, 8th March 2017 18:06
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    Started by eek, 7th March 2017 13:50
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  19. Expenses in the Public Sector - mentioned in HMRC doc just published after the Budget

    "As a result of feedback received during the technical consultation, it will be optional for the agency or public sector body to take account of the workerís expenses when calculating the tax due. This change would put these workers in the same position as other employees, whose employers can...

    Started by matzie, 8th March 2017 13:06
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  20. IR35 - Agency Calculation of Day Rate when moving to PAYE

    To anyone with the knowledge I would welcome your advice. It seems likely that I will fit inside IR35 so I asked my agency to calculate what my day rate would be post 6th April if I was to go PAYE. I am told that they would immediately reduce my day rate by 28% BEFORE deducting Tax & NI. This would...

    Started by Nkmatt1, 8th March 2017 09:22
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