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Forum: Public Sector IR35

To discuss the changes to PS contracts that are due later this year.

  1. Sticky Thread Sticky: Things to do in case you end up in an inside IR35 contract

    Following a comment from http://forums.contractoruk.com/public-sector-ir35/120242-new-role-declared-inside.html#post2389176 I've just realised something. Usually I pay myself a small salary every month but that means I'm using my income tax allowance up which would be a problem if you start an...

    Started by eek, 16th March 2017 12:18
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  2. Sticky Thread Sticky: What's changed - FAQ

    Introduction Back in the 2016 Budget it was announced that the means by which IR35 would be handled in the public sector was going to change to ensure greater compliance. This means the following:- The person responsible for making the determination of whether someone is inside or outside...

    Started by eek, 19th January 2017 22:30
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  3. Sticky Thread Sticky: PS & IR35: Choosing a legitimate Umbrella

    If you've come here looking for advice regarding umbrella companies here it is. Choose a company that complies with HMRC guidelines and current UK legislation*. You can find a selection here: Ask an Umbrella Company - All Umbrella Companies Are Equal Some companies will offer you the moon...

    Started by cojak, 16th January 2017 22:51
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  4. Sticky Thread Sticky: Public Sector or Not?

    Hi All Is there a list somewhere to identify which organisation falls under public sector? The reason for the question is I have been put forward by the agent to couple of organisation for new role. The agent did mention that it's not public sector but I don't want to take his word at face...

    Started by londonlad, 26th January 2017 16:30
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  1. IR35 assessment by MOD on me- materials as a consultant

    I seem to have been assessed as Inside by by client and the tipping point is the question that involves materials etc. They assessed me as Inside because I don't bring my materials to work and this is more about bringing bricks, machinery, paint etc to work. They deem this question to be Not...

    Started by Maroslav, 16th March 2017 21:05
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    ir35, tool
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  2. MoD

    Today the MoD communicated with its 'off-payroll appointees' regarding IR35 changes for the public sector. Whilst not explicit, the letter seems to imply that a contract review will be enough to satisfy them of employment status. Ideally a HMRC contract review or, alternatively, one from a...

    Started by AptoAccounting, 1st February 2017 14:28
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  3. IR35 Insurance and Working through Umbrella

    Hi All. Just wondering if someone can shed some light on below arrangement. I am currently working in PS outside IR35 and I have tax insurance cover. Now my current gig is asking me to work through umbrella. (I understand the risk of retro grab) So I was thinking how about I keep...

    Started by londonlad, 16th March 2017 17:34
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  4. Executive Pension Plans

    So contractors with company pension plans will now be paying tax and NI on their pension contributions?

    Started by NeilShadrach, 15th March 2017 09:54
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    ir45, pension
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  5. Invoicing Agency POST Inside IR35 via Limited Company

    Apologies if this has been asked before, I tried to search but didn't find anything. My current contract within the public sector runs out at the end of March, although I have had an offer to renew on a higher rate to offset the change (if my calculations are correct!). My agent has told me...

    Started by ntdmr, 13th March 2017 19:02
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  6. HMRC status tool

    Hi, I have a client that supplies services to various NHS trusts. I have used the new HMRC tool to assess the position and it states that IR35 does not apply. I have also had advice on the contract as being outwith IR35 - thought everything was good. Some NHS trusts are fine with what has been...

    Started by concernedaccountant, 16th March 2017 14:33
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  7. New role declared inside

    Hi all I've been offered a new contract but it will be inside IR35 with a new company and new agency. The day rate is ok - obviously gonna take a hit on the pay a bit but beats time on the bench. Other than paying the extra tax, nics, umbrella company charges what are the complications...

    Started by philo, 16th March 2017 11:30
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  8. Can we start a list of PS orgs and their status?

    1, Carte Blanche IN decision no matter what 2, Flexible approach accepting contract and WP reviews 3, Reliant on the EES Tool? 4, A. N. Other

    Started by Semtex, 15th March 2017 22:18
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  9. Results of the public sector consultation is up

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/574562/Off-payroll_working_in_the_public_sector-reform_of_the_intermediaries_legislation_-_summary_of_responses.pdf First bit to note of interest (from page 6). So that's the FLC idea killed once and for all... ...

    Started by eek, 5th December 2016 13:58
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  10. Continue with working through Limited Company inside ir35

    I do locum work for the NHS but also a little bit of private ad hoc work as well. My question is.. can I just continue to work through my Limited Company and be taxed PAYE? I don't understand the benefit of umbrellas when: A) they charge a weekly fee (which would be more than my accountant...

    Started by Sn3md, 13th March 2017 16:51
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  11. New Contract with PS

    Hey guys, I've been following the discussions regarding the legislation changes closely on here after a PSB approached me directly. There are alot of threads out there about working through agencies or umbrellas but none for working directly for the PSB. Is there anything I should be aware...

    Started by deyceg, 15th March 2017 12:58
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  12. Capita/NWR Projects

    Evening folks, Are there any Capita/NWR contractors on here that have been given any direction of late?.. Same boat as many I guess, Been eating the daily soup of the day with a fork since the Autumn and all of a sudden Romes burning with 4 weeks to go! TIA

    Started by Kingman66, 22nd February 2017 22:46
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  13. Working through supplier to a public service/fix term contract

    Just been talking to some agents I have had the following two cases described to me for working for a public body 1. ITs part of a fixed price contract, therefore its not subject to IR35 2. Its working through a supplier to a public body, ie the suppler is supplying a service and I would be...

    Started by Bheleu, 14th March 2017 15:39
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  14. Agent - "It's that simple"

    Had a call from an agency about a PS gig. I'd rather wait until things are clearer on the IR35 thing before risking anything in the public sector, so told the agent as much and I wasn't interested. His response was that he'd enquire if it was in scope or not and if it wasn't, then I needn't...

    Started by FrontEnder, 22nd February 2017 12:19
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  15. Liability in case of wrong IR35 determinaton

    We all kind of assume/know that in case of HMRC callenging and winning an IR35 determination, the liability for any taxes/fines/interest will be with the paying link (agency, PSB). Where is this stated in any legislation?

    Started by pscont, 14th March 2017 11:47
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  16. Question Set-piece example of outside IR35

    A few days ago I used the IR35 ESS Tool and got an Outside IR35 decision. Today, I can't get a single permutation of responses that results in an outside IR35 decision. Maybe the software is broken. Maybe not. Is anyone out there able to provide a set of IR35 ESS Tool responses that...

    Started by BingoMan, 14th March 2017 11:08
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  17. IR35 PS - So anyone had the discussion yet?

    Those of us with some involvement with PS..... I've advised both agency and consultancy (who I work through at their PS client site) that something needs to be sorted. They've mentioned extension (luckily current one ends end Feb which is ideal) but I've said until its sorted its a no. ...

    Started by psychocandy, 24th January 2017 08:22
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  18. It's Not Fine -- Specific Flaws With the New IR35 Tool

    I know there are other threads running on the new tool, sorry for the duplication. This one is not intended for general discussion, but to just list specific problems that HMRC really should fix. If you add to what I've said in the comments, I'll add it to the list, if in my infinite and undying...

    Started by WordIsBond, 3rd March 2017 14:10
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  19. Best Option for 1 day/week public sector contract

    Hi all, I am entirely new to contracting, but have the option of a ~1 day per week (~400 a week) contract supporting a government department. This is in addition to my normal PAYE employment. What is the best way to go about this? Ideally would like to minimise tax burden, but also want to...

    Started by orie1925, 13th March 2017 16:14
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  20. Forced to use umbrella??

    Hello, I have worked via my own ltd company in the private sector for the past few years. Am now looking into my first public sector contract and have been told that the client requires contractors to use an umbrella company, not ltd. The recruitmemt team have put me in touch with their...

    Started by Zippydill123, 11th March 2017 11:44
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    13th March 2017 10:36 Go to last post

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