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    Quote Originally Posted by psychocandy View Post
    Know what you mean - clients tend not to understand the issues.
    I don't think many contractors do in this area either. We'd certainly hear about it if you went for an interview and the client told you that you'd be fixing your mistakes in your own time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by psychocandy View Post
    So it has got to be the agency that does the tax/NI thing
    It has to be the fee payer - the law is quite clear on this.

    If you are direct, that's the client.

    If you are via an agency and there are no other companies in the mix, it's the agency.

    If you are via an agency and there are other companies in the chain, then it's the company closest to the intermediary that is used by the individual (eg a payroll company paying your limited company).

    Fee payer = the company that pays the fees to your company.

    If you use an umbrella company then this is all irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Spartan View Post
    LOL Behave the the only thing that's grey there it the career civil serpents that work there, don't forget that one of my best mates left there recently and while he was there they did everything they possibly could to keep him. Ultimately while he was there he took every precaution necessary to ensure it was outside IR35. We used to have daily conversations on Slack about how he had to refuse to do certain work as it was outside the scope of his contract.
    Ha ha. Know what you mean but its no dissimilar to a lot of places lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    I don't think many contractors do in this area either. We'd certainly hear about it if you went for an interview and the client told you that you'd be fixing your mistakes in your own time!
    Maybe lol. But at last client I did. They were a bit bemused that I did but didn't moan. (Deleted the wrong Exchange DBs so had to rebuild a few from primary copy - not hard but time consuming).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    It has to be the fee payer - the law is quite clear on this.

    If you are direct, that's the client.

    If you are via an agency and there are no other companies in the mix, it's the agency.

    If you are via an agency and there are other companies in the chain, then it's the company closest to the intermediary that is used by the individual (eg a payroll company paying your limited company).

    Fee payer = the company that pays the fees to your company.

    If you use an umbrella company then this is all irrelevant.
    But if agency says nah we ain't doing it? Too much hassle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by psychocandy View Post
    So it has got to be the agency that does the tax/NI thing. So they are quite within their rights to refuse to operate like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by psychocandy View Post
    But if agency says nah we ain't doing it? Too much hassle....
    Choose another agency....

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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    I think she's stolen that answer from my FAQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    I think she's stolen that answer from my FAQ
    That's exactly what I thought...
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