ID cards to cost £300 per person

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Linq

Personally I still think they are far too conservative with the potential costs.

The biometrics I've heard are still running at a 30% failure rate. :lol

[Not So Wise]

is considered controversial because personal details on the central database can be accessed by public sector organisations,

Hmm never knew that, while i support the ID cards this is do not support at all

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Not So Wise: Not to accuse you of being a little dense, but here is threadeds theorem on New Lie Scumervent announcements: "1) When anyone from the New Lie say X is the intention, Not X and worse will be the outcome. 2) Not X will be achieved by doing some really really stupid thing Y."

So, here is an example application of threadeds theorem on New Lie Scumervent announcements: in the case of ID cards they say they are to prevent identity theft. Well, understanding of the theorem will tell you that these ID cards will actually aid identity theft. And the second part? Now how can a government go about aiding identity theft? So simple really, just create a monstrous central database, with everyones details on, easily accessible to any civil savant and their dog/cat/pet budgie.

And don't forget, in the "War Against Terror"(tm) your full details will also be given to the Americans, who will pass them on to private companies, who will add completely erroneous data just to make the occasional quiet nobodies' life more interesting.

Remember guys and gals, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear, apart from what your government gets up to of course...:lol

[Sysman]

Who can gain access to the info on the national register?

www.no2id.net/IDSchemes/faq.php#5

"Clause 19 of the Bill allows the disclosure of information from the register without the individual’s consent to (among other agencies) police organisations, the security services, Inland Revenue, the Department for Work & Pensions, the Serious Organised Crime Agency and Customs & Excise."

Now scroll down to read the items listed under "What personal information will be contained in the Register and on the Card?"

Read the rest, while you are there.

[Lucifer Box]

Re: Who can gain access to the info on the national register

If you are innocent, you have nothing to fear.

Cheers,
That bloke who was released from chokey last week having spent 25 years in prison from the age of 15 for a murder he didn't commit.

Killing bid conviction overturned

[BobHope2]

Re: Who can gain access to the info on the national register

Civil liberties n'all aside........

I smell gravy!

[MilanB]

Re: Who can gain access to the info on the national register

ahhh Bisto.....

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Milan.

[BobTheCrate]

Re: £300 per person - drop in the ocean

The integrity of an Id card is only ever as good (or bad) as the integrity of the information supplied to produce it.

The state and other organisations 'total reliance' of the Id card is dangerous as is their ever changing morality governing the use of the information held.

Cost
The set up cost would be a drop in the ocean compared to the ongoing costs that would 'develop' to so call 'manage' the system. Can you imagine the scale of the civil service and inherent bureaucracy that would emerge as a result.

Id cards now would be one of the worst deals ever imposed on us.

[Lucifer Box]

Running Costs

The Home Office estimates the annual running costs of the scheme to be £500m - reckon on treble that in reality.

[fancellu]

Re: Running Costs

Perhaps they can give it to EDS (Everything done @#%$)
and get it for a bargain £2 billion?

Of course it won't work, but that's a given.