Originally posted by BrilloPad
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Murray Group decision 5th July
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Wishful thinking
Bit hopeful I know ..but ...
I have Notice of Assessments for 2011/12 and 12/13. Does this ruling place the burden of paying applicable tax on the employer and not the employee? If the umbrella company no longer exists can the burden be legally passed to the employee? What would this mean for the 2019 legislation?Comment
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Originally posted by Dylan View PostYou ever heard of the phrase "pyrrhic victory"Comment
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostYes. Why is this a pyrrhic victory?
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I'm not a laywer but look forward to hearing from my legal representation in due course.
My very simple interpretation as a layman is that in order to use this ruling against contractors I think HMRC will have to somehow transfer liability from employer to employee. Hopefully this will mean they listen to reason and will accept a sensible settlement.Comment
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Originally posted by DotasScandal View PostPresumably because the liability falls on the employer, not the employee. HMRC is entitled to collection from the employer.
Originally posted by DotasScandal View Postas the employer and the employer's money are gone, there is nothing to collect.Comment
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Originally posted by Dylan View PostI'm not a laywer but look forward to hearing from my legal representation in due course.
My very simple interpretation as a layman is that in order to use this ruling against contractors I think HMRC will have to somehow transfer liability from employer to employee. Hopefully this will mean they listen to reason and will accept a sensible settlement.
Likewise for the employed schemes, I assume that the learned gentlemen who consider these things will conclude that sprinkling magic pixie dust on your wages by giving them to someone in the IoM who then lends you the same money back again will conclude that if it still quacks and walks like a duck then the pixie dust hasn't worked?Public Service Posting by the BBC - Bloggs Bulls**t Corp.
Officially CUK certified - Thick as f**k.Comment
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Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View PostSlam dunk for the self employed schemes then?
Likewise for the employed schemes, I assume that the learned gentlemen who consider these things will conclude that sprinkling magic pixie dust on your wages by giving them to someone in the IoM who then lends you the same money back again will conclude that if it still quacks and walks like a duck then the pixie dust hasn't worked?Comment
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostThe question is where does the liability fall if the magic pixie dust does not work.Public Service Posting by the BBC - Bloggs Bulls**t Corp.
Officially CUK certified - Thick as f**k.Comment
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Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View PostOn the duck.Comment
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