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Pinsent Masons/Ingenious JR heard in the High Court last week

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    Pinsent Masons/Ingenious JR heard in the High Court last week

    http://www.uhy-uk.com/wp-content/upl...-July-2015.pdf

    A decision could be anywhere from a couple of weeks to many months.

    Whatever the outcome, it will probably be appealed to the Court of Appeal.

    Some commentators expect it will go all the way to the Supreme Court.
    http://www.taxadvisermagazine.com/ar...attle-commence

    #2
    "Notwithstanding how abhorrent the legislation, it will be a brave High Court Judge who will find in favour of taxpayers as it is highly likely that the decision will be spread across the front pages of the broadsheets and tabloids alike!"

    All eyes on this for sure. We should know soon enough if the UK has reverted to a full blown tyranny or not just yet.
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      #3
      It will be very difficult to get a judge who is brave enough to go against government.

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        #4
        Originally posted by StrengthInNumbers View Post
        It will be very difficult to get a judge who is brave enough to go against government.
        Don't be silly! They seem to delight in doing just that these days.
        Blog? What blog...?

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          #5
          Originally posted by malvolio View Post
          Don't be silly! They seem to delight in doing just that these days.
          For example?

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            #6
            Judges are generally fair in my experience.

            Some in tax cases have said things along the lines of "I hate tax avoiders but this works" or "if that's how HMRC wrote the rules then that's how it works".

            In cases where distinctions are less clear the lower tier tax judges will turn cartwheels to find for HMRC but here we're looking at non tax judges.

            We understand the Pinsent Masons are relatively upbeat about the hearing (but they would say that) but it may be months before we get a decision.
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              #7
              Originally posted by webberg View Post
              We understand the Pinsent Masons are relatively upbeat about the hearing (but they would say that) but it may be months before we get a decision.
              Was that a public hearing at all?

              It would be interesting to know what point PM put forward.
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                #8
                Originally posted by DotasScandal View Post
                Was that a public hearing at all?

                It would be interesting to know what point PM put forward.
                Yes it would have been in public, probably at the Royal Courts of Justice.

                The hearing doesn't appear to have been reported much, so we'll probably have to wait for the decision to find out what arguments were advanced.

                I'd be astounded if the Judge finds in favour of the taxpayers.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by webberg View Post
                  Judges are generally fair in my experience.
                  Judge Parker against montpelier in their judicial review. MP were criticized for not pushing harder for a resolution. MP proposed to go to FTTT in 2006/2007 which HMRC rejected. Instead they bought out retrospective legislation.

                  Family court judges are mostly total scum. But they have the advantage of having their decisions kept private.

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                    #10
                    The hearing would have been public (justice mist be seen to be done) and I suspect that the written decision will also be public.

                    This will be on the Administrative Court website
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