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    Budget 2015 - get angry, get active

    I'm in the process of preparing a calculator of the likely effect on contractors of the last Budget this month.

    As a result I've read in some detail the 1,000 odd pages of the materials released. I'd like to share a few thoughts on those as below.

    The point of this post however is to urge, encourage, push, cajole and DEMAND that whenever the opportunity presents itself, you should comment (protest) on whatever media is suitable, against the weasel words used to "justify" some of these measures.

    Inaction = acceptance.

    1. Table 1.5 of the the Red Book, says that "Discretionary consolidation [what on earth does that mean?] is calculated as the sum of receipts from avoidance and tax planning..."

    First we had a deliberate confusion between evasion and avoidance, then aggressive avoidance, then abusive avoidance and now "tax planning". The mission creep here is inevitable but dangerous.

    2. Tax lock - "watch my lips, no increase in income tax, etc" Broken within a few weeks. The tax on dividend income is described as a new tax, not an extension of income tax. Similarly the bank levy tax of 8%. Do you think that banks will not pass this on to customers?

    3. Para 2.12 - the target of £5bn A YEAR in additional receipts, includes "tax planning, avoidance and compliance". Not so much mission creep as gallop.

    4. IR35 "non compliance" costs £400m a year. No validation of that number and no justification and no acknowledgement that client engagers are no more keen on this than contractors.

    5. The dividend tax (not of course and increase in income tax) will raise £7bn by 2019/20. It also contributes to the expected £2bn "saved" by discouraging "Tax motivated incorporation" TMI.

    6. The TMI announcements worry me a lot. It's taking away a basic freedom to operate as you choose and instead be pushed into what HMG chooses (at no doubt increased cost). This MUST, MUST, MUST be resisted.

    7. The expected take from "enhanced compliance" is £700m (to 2019/20). Tackling the "hidden economy", i.e. all those cash in hand businesses, smuggling, non declaration etc is put at £860m. Given the margin of error here, those figures are probably pretty much the same. The Government is therefore spending your money to collect more money from you and allowing the cheats, criminals and deliberate evaders to be subject to no more investigation than you are. Unbelievable.

    8. GAAR. Is to have a penalty applied. Mission creep.

    9. HMRC will have the ability to access online payment accounts such as Paypal. Hopefully this will be resisted.

    10. Unfunded EFRBS will be attacked, again.

    One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.
    Plato
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    (No, me neither).

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    Originally posted by webberg View Post
    I'm in the process of preparing a calculator of the likely effect on contractors of the last Budget this month.

    As a result I've read in some detail the 1,000 odd pages of the materials released. I'd like to share a few thoughts on those as below.

    The point of this post however is to urge, encourage, push, cajole and DEMAND that whenever the opportunity presents itself, you should comment (protest) on whatever media is suitable, against the weasel words used to "justify" some of these measures.

    Inaction = acceptance.

    1. Table 1.5 of the the Red Book, says that "Discretionary consolidation [what on earth does that mean?] is calculated as the sum of receipts from avoidance and tax planning..."

    First we had a deliberate confusion between evasion and avoidance, then aggressive avoidance, then abusive avoidance and now "tax planning". The mission creep here is inevitable but dangerous.

    2. Tax lock - "watch my lips, no increase in income tax, etc" Broken within a few weeks. The tax on dividend income is described as a new tax, not an extension of income tax. Similarly the bank levy tax of 8%. Do you think that banks will not pass this on to customers?

    3. Para 2.12 - the target of £5bn A YEAR in additional receipts, includes "tax planning, avoidance and compliance". Not so much mission creep as gallop.

    4. IR35 "non compliance" costs £400m a year. No validation of that number and no justification and no acknowledgement that client engagers are no more keen on this than contractors.

    5. The dividend tax (not of course and increase in income tax) will raise £7bn by 2019/20. It also contributes to the expected £2bn "saved" by discouraging "Tax motivated incorporation" TMI.

    6. The TMI announcements worry me a lot. It's taking away a basic freedom to operate as you choose and instead be pushed into what HMG chooses (at no doubt increased cost). This MUST, MUST, MUST be resisted.

    7. The expected take from "enhanced compliance" is £700m (to 2019/20). Tackling the "hidden economy", i.e. all those cash in hand businesses, smuggling, non declaration etc is put at £860m. Given the margin of error here, those figures are probably pretty much the same. The Government is therefore spending your money to collect more money from you and allowing the cheats, criminals and deliberate evaders to be subject to no more investigation than you are. Unbelievable.

    8. GAAR. Is to have a penalty applied. Mission creep.

    9. HMRC will have the ability to access online payment accounts such as Paypal. Hopefully this will be resisted.

    10. Unfunded EFRBS will be attacked, again.

    One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.
    Plato
    I think you are protesting too much. Taking an example. Unfunded pensions are not being "attacked, again". They haven't been attacked yet. They are not being attacked now. Their tax treatment has not changed for a very long time. There is an informal consultation about how much revenue may be lost (or gained). This is not new. It was clearly said that the government will continue to monitor them. That's what they are doing. And personally I doubt anything will change. But if I am wrong, then I am wrong.

    As for GAAR penalties, why not? I've come across a situation that was so, so contrived and abusive and would be very likely to be within the scope of GAAR. But they basically said "so what".

    TMI - "It's taking away a basic freedom to operate as you choose". It's not taking any choice away. Nothing makes it harder to incorporate or pay a dividend. It's just saying that the first £5k of dividends is tax-free and the next bit is taxed at 7.5% more than it currently is. You might choose not to incorporate because it gives worse tax treatment than being a partner in an LLP. But that is not taking away a freedom.

    IR35 - "No validation of that number and no justification". You mean there is the same validation and justification as in all the other numbers published. The Budget docs never say how the yield estimates are calculated. As far as I am aware, HMRC have never published yield estimates and won't even give them to House of Lords' committees. Just because there are not ten pages of evidence and behavioural analysis published does not mean that the £430m has not been looked at the yield properly. We all know that £430m is an estimated number and no one pretends that it is correct to three significant figures. But I suspect that there will be of the right order of magnitude.

    "tax planning, avoidance and compliance". Why is making sure that individuals and businesses get their compliance right "mission creep"? I thought that had always been one of HMRC's core missions. Looking at the numbers, it seems like HMRC is doing quite well on that with, for example, the super rich. Do you really think that is wrong?

    On the other hand, the tax lock is just pure bo!!ocks.

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      #3
      Budget 2015 - get angry, get active

      Dont know how to get more active. We tried everything but contractors would not even get up to go and see their MPs.
      MPs also had a clear path of action. They write a template letter to Gauke and Gauke replies with a template letter.
      All in all if you can't beat them, be them. To me this government is saying we will tax any success. So I am changing what I will do. Work for 4-5 months a year and rest of the year holiday. After first £43000 next year, every limited company will be giving away 52.5% in taxes. Why on earth will I do that? Government wants me not to work, so I will not. If me holidaying and relaxing at home is better for economy it is definitely better for me.
      May be joining politics in that 6 months a year time. [emoji3]

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        #4
        Originally posted by StrengthInNumbers View Post
        Dont know how to get more active. We tried everything but contractors would not even get up to go and see their MPs.
        MPs also had a clear path of action. They write a template letter to Gauke and Gauke replies with a template letter.
        All in all if you can't beat them, be them. To me this government is saying we will tax any success. So I am changing what I will do. Work for 4-5 months a year and rest of the year holiday. After first £43000 next year, every limited company will be giving away 52.5% in taxes. Why on earth will I do that? Government wants me not to work, so I will not. If me holidaying and relaxing at home is better for economy it is definitely better for me.
        May be joining politics in that 6 months a year time. [emoji3]
        StrengthInNumbers, I hear you - I have myself lowered my level of commercial activity drastically , partially in response to this whole APN charade. This is until I move out of the UK and under friendlier skies....
        However, I think there is A LOT left to be done. This time it's not an attack just on EBT guys, it's an attack on all freelancers.
        Have we done all we could do to spread the word to ALL of them?
        I doubt so.
        Help preserve the right to be a contractor in the UK

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          #5
          Spread the word to ALL of them????
          U cannot help those who can't help themselves.
          Basically I don't know what to do to motivate people. Give me shout and I will be next to u to do whatever is required.

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            #6
            Like this, you mean?
            Originally posted by WordIsBond View Post
            I read the document again this weekend, taking a little more time on it. And the thing that struck me about it all is that we've already lost the argument, as far as the government is concerned, and if we want to have any hope to win it then the argument has to be re-framed.

            Right now, the government clearly sees this in HMRC's terms. Those terms say that incorporation of freelancers is a negative for the government, because it means loss of revenue. It is bad for us to be independent, it is bad for us to be employees of our own companies rather than employees of our clients, because that model means less tax revenue. So there will always be this tug of war where they are trying to drag more of us back into the clutches of the tax model that maximises tax revenue.

            That's a losing argument for us, because money talks. So they will constantly be doing things to drag us back into that model.

            It seems to me that we need to make the case for why it is beneficial to the economy for us to have our own business, and to be incorporated, and to be accepted as businesses in our own right. This consultation document reads as if that isn't accepted as beneficial by government at all.

            The document says IR35 must be failing because there is a whole industry that has grown up around beating IR35, and as contractor numbers increase, contractors operating under IR35 haven't increased. Maybe that means people are using that anti-IR35 industry to cheat. But maybe it means people are using it to structure their businesses to stay outside IR35. And maybe it means industry is choosing to work with contractors because they find it useful to have skilled and flexible workers available on a temporary basis, and so are willing to structure contracts and working relationships to accommodate contractors wishing to stay outside IR35. Maybe it isn't cheating. Maybe IR35 has changed behaviour....

            But even if they accept that, it won't change anything, because they aren't getting the revenue they want. So they will just go after us in another way (like travel expenses?).

            We need to not only make the case for flexibility, we also need to make the case for being limited companies, for being separate businesses. We need to make the case that the flexible workforce can't exist if we aren't protected from liability, so we have to form limited companies. We need to make the case that the flexible workforce has variable income, so having a limited company allows us to smooth out personal compensation between good years and bad years, and if we can't do that we'll have to push up costs to industry. We need to make the case to our client industries, to big business, that if we're the target of government, it is going to cost them, in increased fees but even more in the loss of parts of their available pool of skilled workers, and get them on board with arguing our case to government.

            Right now, we're just a cash cow that isn't being milked, as far as government is concerned. The dividend tax, the expenses, the whole tone of this document, makes that clear. We need to make the case that our current model is needed, or they'll keep hitting it until it dies. We may fight off one thing, or another, but they'll just keep coming at us. We have to find a way to change the discussion.
            "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
            - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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              #7
              The first (and possibly most difficult) thing is to get into contractors' brains that we must become a WE if we want to have any voice and control over our destiny as professionals... Feels like trying to empty the ocean with a teaspoon sometimes
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                #8
                It might work if you look to the future rather than the past.
                "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
                - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by cojak View Post
                  It might work if you look to the future rather than the past.
                  If only they'd let us move on...
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                    #10
                    Feel free to vent your spleen here Budget 2015 : AUCAE launch survey urging contractors and recruiters to have their voice heard. - All Umbrella Companies Are Equal All responses will be anonymised (f that's a word) and then sent to HMRC and no 11
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