Jabberwocky - read carefully

[xoggoth]

Look up a dictionary, end of argument. But semantics never ends any argument. In English "worth" does not have a certain meaning defined by common and established usage, rather it has several meanings, plural, and some of those you correctly quote are not remotely the same. And of those, "A quantity of something that may be purchased for a specified sum or by a specified means" is exactly the definition I am driving at.

The principle, since you have clearly not grasped it, is that subjective measures of anything whatever can have no meaning since they are subjective and therefore cannot be known with any surety. We should stick only with what we know and can be measured. It does not matter if this is a true or a worthwhile measure, it is the only measure we have that is worth the term. In a material world the only measure of worth is material benefit.

[Fungus]

Let's go to the dictionary fu*kwits:

worth

The quality that renders something desirable, useful, or valuable: the worth of higher education.
Material or market value: stocks having a worth of ten million dollars.
A quantity of something that may be purchased for a specified sum or by a specified means: ten dollars' worth of natural gas; wanted their money's worth.
Wealth; riches: her net worth.
Quality that commands esteem or respect; merit: a person of great worth.

As you can see there are a number of definitions, and the free market is never mentioned. Xog's trite little definition is simplistic claptrap. I suggest you all get back to your little contracting w*nkfest.

Oh yes I am an IT contractor actually, just one with a little vision to see beyond one line definitions.

If you intend to argue a case in the English language, you need to obey the normal rules of grammar. If you don't then no-one will understand what you are saying. Your original post was largely unintelligible.

When you say the following:

"Let's go to the dictionary fu*kwits:"

and

"I suggest you all get back to your little contracting w*nkfest."

It makes it clear that you cannot argue your case based on evidence and instead resort to personal abuse.

And I don't believe that you are an IT contractor. You can't be over 17 given your poor grammar and abusive manner.

Fungus

[Jabberwocky]

Please accept my sincere apologies for any personal abuse that may have slipped through in my previous posts. I now fully accept that you are worth what you earn, indeed I am worth what I earn. It is a clear and simple definition and I have amended my belief system accordingly.

[Lucifer Box]

Oh yes I am an IT contractor actually, just one with a little vision to see beyond one line definitions.

Are you still an American fundamentalist Christian as well, or was that for last week only?

[Fungus]

Please accept my sincere apologies for any personal abuse that may have slipped through in my previous posts. I now fully accept that you are worth what you earn, indeed I am worth what I earn. It is a clear and simple definition and I have amended my belief system accordingly.

If you had read my earlier posting you would have seen that I do not follow such a simplistic mantra as "I am worth what I earn". As an IT contractor I earn what I can get and by contracting I have a better bargaining position than as a permie. And the increased ease of laying me off compared to a permie also makes me more desirable when a client needs short term work doing. I accept the risk and the client pays me more. Surely you know that? Or maybe 17 years is too short a time to learn such self evident truths?

In general in this life, you have to take risks if you want money. You rant on about unfairness and injustice, but quite often those who earn a lot do so by taking risks, as opposed to those who do comfortable safe modestly paid jobs.

The problem with socialism is that it wants to reward everyone, including those who take no risks.

Fungus

[Jabberwocky]

I fully appreciate your point of view as a fellow contractor and that this is a contractor board where there is little room for socialist viewpoints. We live and breathe the free market, it is our lifeblood, our livelihood and our way of life. I would also like to thank for moderators for their advice on this matter and thank them for their continuing support.

[DodgyAgent]

I fully appreciate your point of view as a fellow contractor and that this is a contractor board where there is little room for socialist viewpoints. We live and breathe the free market, it is our lifeblood, our livelihood and our way of life. I would also like to thank for moderators for their advice on this matter and thank them for their continuing support.

If you look back at your posts you dont actually argue any "socialist" view point at all. You instead reel off meaningless cliches that your lot have always used to manipulate guilt in order to gain power.

[BoredBloke]

Clue is in the name Tony, bit like the word as*hole.

But what does it mean?

4. You one get a one-off contract.

Are you trying to say that one individual gets a one off contract?

[Jabberwocky]

Tony, I must apologise for using that unfornate word - what I was getting at was a contract using a niche skill, for which the employer gives you a high rate. However, subsequently it might be difficult to find a similar contract and maintain that rate, and maintain your value or worth. Of course the point is now mute given that I accept that you are worth what you earn. I merely state this as explanation of my earlier post and in no way do I wish to annoy the moderators here further.

[OwlHoot]

Jabber, FWIW I reckon you were right the first time.