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ID cards will lead to 'massive fraud'

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    ID cards will lead to 'massive fraud'

    ID cards will lead to 'massive fraud'
    Key points
    • Microsoft warned the scheme could generate a massive amount of ID fraud
    • There may be a Commons rebellion over whether the bill should get a 3rd reading
    • It is proposed the ID cards will carry 13 personal identifiers, such as iris scans and finger prints

    Key quote
    "Unlike other forms of information, such as credit card details, if core biometric details such as your fingerprints are compromised, it is not going to be possible to provide you with new ones," - Mr Fishenden, national technology officer for Microsoft

    #2
    Of course ID cards will lead to massive fraud.

    It is intentional.

    It is a basic tenet of socialism.

    It called redistribution of wealth.

    Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
    threadeds website, and here's my blog.

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      #3
      Key quote
      "Unlike other forms of information, such as credit card details, if core biometric details such as your fingerprints are compromised, it is not going to be possible to provide you with new ones," - Mr Fishenden, national technology officer for Microsoft
      If your card is stolen it will be a simple matter to give you finger and eye transplants so that you can obtain a new identity. Simple really, if not a little painful and inconvenient.

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        #4
        ID cards? Let us use their correct name: Surveillance Cards

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          #5
          Originally posted by DimPrawn
          If your card is stolen it will be a simple matter to give you finger and eye transplants so that you can obtain a new identity. Simple really, if not a little painful and inconvenient.
          If your card is stolen, the biometrices on it (and those in the NIR for the same reference number) will not match those of the person who has acquired the card.

          Sorry, I don't understand what the problem is here?

          tim

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            #6
            NIR? Isn't that the system where several people have the same numbers?
            Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
            threadeds website, and here's my blog.

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              #7
              I think it is the case that your biometric details will be stolen and assigned to a new identity.

              So when you present the card it will present an ID that resolves to FAZUL ABDULLAH MOHAMMED and you will be locked up without trial, whilst FAZUL ABDULLAH MOHAMMED goes shopping at your expense and then blows himself up.

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                #8
                Originally posted by DimPrawn
                I think it is the case that your biometric details will be stolen and assigned to a new identity.

                So when you present the card it will present an ID that resolves to FAZUL ABDULLAH MOHAMMED and you will be locked up without trial, whilst FAZUL ABDULLAH MOHAMMED goes shopping at your expense and then blows himself up.

                Ahaa! I have already stolen FAZUL ABDULLAH MOHAMMED's fingers and eye's

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by steve'O
                  Ahaa! I have already stolen FAZUL ABDULLAH MOHAMMED's fingers and eye's
                  So it was you who got to Omar Bakri Mohammed was it? Well done.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DimPrawn
                    I think it is the case that your biometric details will be stolen and assigned to a new identity.

                    So when you present the card it will present an ID that resolves to FAZUL ABDULLAH MOHAMMED and you will be locked up without trial, whilst FAZUL ABDULLAH MOHAMMED goes shopping at your expense and then blows himself up.
                    This requires someone hacking into the "National Identity Register" Database, not someone stealing your card.

                    I'm not saying that it wont happen, but it's a massive higher level crime, not some scrote dipping into your bag and taking off with your ID card.

                    And it doesn't compromise your biometics in a way that requires them to be changed. When the fraud is discovered, it is fixed simply by restoring the database entry to your name.

                    TBH this type of crime is a big risk today. That's big in the sense that the cost to you is big, but the chance of it happening is vanishingly small. Someone could steal your car (or house) by hacking into the DVLC (or Land Registry) and change the owner's name from you to them. Do you see a lot of this crime your way? Do you worry abouth the possibility? I certainly don't.

                    tim

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