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[Cyberman]

Originally Posted by expat

Perhaps he really was responsible for sound management and the steady growth of the UK economy, and now the greedy deregulated bankers really are responsible for its downfall?

He has presided over incompetent regulation, and even made changes that weakened that regulation, and thus he is culpable for much of the current downturn.

[expat]

Originally Posted by Cyberman

He has presided over incompetent regulation, and even made changes that weakened that regulation, and thus he is culpable for much of the current downturn.

Tell that to Bush, he'll organize regime change for you.

[DodgyAgent]

Originally Posted by TonyEnglish

You are failing to take into account the stupidity of the uk population. He will get away with it if he can get the media onside and they will tell everybody so many times that it wasn't his fault until it becomes 'true'

Fair point

[d000hg]

Originally Posted by ratewhore

No one is blaming him for the world economic position, just farking up the UK's economy.

And as for being a reasonable PM, it seems to me everything he touches turns to shit...



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He couldn't really have inherited the job at a worse time though... every country is having big problems and I'm certain if the Tories had got in last election things would be little different.

[tim123]

Originally Posted by d000hg

it must be his time as chancellor that is more significant to the current problems. I thought he was generally regarded as doing an OK kind of job in that role...

Only by himself.

We are in the Sh*t we are in because of GB's time as Chancellor.

tim

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Originally Posted by TonyEnglish

You are failing to take into account the stupidity of the uk population. He will get away with it if he can get the media onside and they will tell everybody so many times that it wasn't his fault until it becomes 'true'

Indeed - some people still think Thatcher reduced taxes even though she didn't - people will believe what they want often according to blind loyalty rather than any basis of fact.

That said I hope Gordo fails - it's time we had a change.

[The Lone Gunman]

Originally Posted by Peoplesoft bloke

Indeed - some people still think Thatcher reduced taxes even though she didn't - people will believe what they want often according to blind loyalty rather than any basis of fact.

Do you have another record you could play?

[ratewhore]

Originally Posted by Peoplesoft bloke

people will believe what they want often according to blind loyalty rather than any basis of fact.

You're quite right of course, I take back everything I've said about El Gordo. In fact, the boy's done good!!!

[DodgyAgent]

Originally Posted by Peoplesoft bloke

Indeed - some people still think Thatcher reduced taxes even though she didn't - people will believe what they want often according to blind loyalty rather than any basis of fact.

That said I hope Gordo fails - it's time we had a change.

What an idiotic cliche that again missies the point of Thatcher. Taxes may not have gone down in terms of revenues taken , but she created an environment of wealth creation that enabled people (all people including the working class) to make more money. With such an environment people had access to borrowing, and enjoyed more choice in how they spent their money. The wealth base went up and so probably did taxes.

The same thing happened in the USA. Reagan by reducing the tax levels actually increased the amount of tax that was paid.

You and the rest of your small minded lefties cannot bear to attribute credit to where it is due. Your attitude to Thatcher is exactly the inverse of your
own words- "people will believe what they want often according to blind loyalty rather than any basis of fact"

[d000hg]

Originally Posted by tim123

Only by himself.

We are in the Sh*t we are in because of GB's time as Chancellor.

tim

I don't recall the media and general public being particularly upset with him. Sure people whinged about tax but they ALWAYS do that... meanwhile interest and inflation stayed low and the world didn't collapse.