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Old 31st August 2008, 12:38   #21
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Dyson didn't invent the technology (I guess he never claims he does - just says nothing) - he just domesticated it (smart guy). They aren't as good at doing the job.
Dyson had to defend his patent in court. The established cleaner manufacturers saw the market share that he was taking and (belatedly) ld their own "bag-less" cleaners.

The same argument was used, that it wasn't a new invention.

Dyson won and the other manufacturers, who had already started to sell bag-less cleaners were forced to withdraw their products and pay compensation.

So something in Dyson's invention stops everybody else from making a bagless cleaner using the same technology.

(I note that there are some other, cheaper, bagless cleaners on the market. I bought one, IIRC it was 59 pounds. It was CFU and went into the dustbin quicker than the 15 pound value one I have already mentioned, will be)

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Old 31st August 2008, 12:54   #22
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(I note that there are some other, cheaper, bagless cleaners on the market. I bought one, IIRC it was 59 pounds. It was CFU and went into the dustbin quicker than the 15 pound value one I have already mentioned, will be)
It wasn't a Panasonic by chance? I've got one that sucks like the Dickens (1750 Watts) but has to be thoroughly cleaned after every use, otherwise the suction bypass kicks in with a resultant reduction in lots of that suction. I should really bin it. I was never sure if mine was bust or whether the design was carp. I suspected the latter.
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Old 31st August 2008, 15:43   #23
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Dyson goes into some detail about where he nicked the idea from, and your description sounds about right, though I forget the details. I'm not a big Dyson fan myself (the man or machine) but I've owned two (now kaput) in the past. I've not seen cleaners use them.
The only professional cleanin lady I've ever seen with a dyson was on that "How Clean is your House" prog, where the blonde one with the bun more or less said it was much the same as the old hoover they were comparing it with... and 3 times the price.

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A Hoover Junior gets my vote, although they stopped making them because they were too reliable.

Failing one of those, a Miele.
Hoover Junior must have been one of the best ever designed... built like a brick tuliphouse & lasts(ed) for ever.

No wonder they stopped making them.
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Old 31st August 2008, 16:29   #24
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The only professional cleanin lady I've ever seen with a dyson was on that "How Clean is your House" prog, where the blonde one with the bun more or less said it was much the same as the old hoover they were comparing it with... and 3 times the price.



Hoover Junior must have been one of the best ever designed... built like a brick tuliphouse & lasts(ed) for ever.

No wonder they stopped making them.
Don't forget the spherical Hoover Constellation. A truly space-aged beast that floated on a cushion of air, exactly capturing the Zeitgeist (!) of the 1960s era of space exploration.

We had one when I was a kid, and it was a bugger. We has a long sloping passage and when Hoovering 'downhill', the Constellation would catch you up and knock you over if you didn't keep an eye out for it.
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Don't forget the spherical Hoover Constellation. A truly space-aged beast that floated on a cushion of air, exactly capturing the Zeitgeist (!) of the 1960s era of space exploration.

We had one when I was a kid, and it was a bugger. We has a long sloping passage and when Hoovering 'downhill', the Constellation would catch you up and knock you over if you didn't keep an eye out for it.
What was that about sad posts? You are sat at your comp on a sunday afternoon talking about Vacuum Cleaners
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What was that about sad posts? You are sat at your comp on a sunday afternoon talking about Vacuum Cleaners
And you're reading them! Wow!
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