Hurrah! Ireland!!! Thank you!

[Lucy]

Voted no to Lisbon treaty!

[Pickle2]

Out of interest, which bit of the treaty did you not like?

[Lucy]

Broadly, transferring more power to Brussells.

More specifically, states combatting climate change as an objective of the EU.

Removes the veto, makes majority voting binding.

Yourself?

[Marina]

Yippee! Well done Ireland!!

What with them throwing out the Treaty, and the daft DUP voting *for* 42 day internment, I've half a mind to start supporting Sin Fein (sp?). Well why not - they're respectable now, and not blowing things up any more.

[Pickle2]

Me, none. Im fairly pro-europe, so would be a "yes" voter.

Im not sure its really about transfering more power to europe. The changes to the voting system are mainly to allow the union to actually make descisions based on qualified majority. It seems odd that we would want bulgaria holding sway over the wishes of the rest of the continent, for example. My feeling is that if we are in europe, and we want europe to function, then its a necessary piece of legislation.

I think the irish should now face another vote to either

1. Ratify
or
2. Leave the union, and let the rest of us get on with trying to create something better than the status quo.

[sasguru]

Me, none. Im fairly pro-europe, so would be a "yes" voter.

Im not sure its really about transfering more power to europe. The changes to the voting system are mainly to allow the union to actually make descisions based on qualified majority. It seems odd that we would want bulgaria holding sway over the wishes of the rest of the continent, for example. My feeling is that if we are in europe, and we want europe to function, then its a necessary piece of legislation.

I think the irish should now face another vote to either

1. Ratify
or
2. Leave the union, and let the rest of us get on with trying to create something better than the status quo.

Oi! Stop thinking. You're only allowed to rant and cliche-think like our resident thicko, Lucy.

[ratewhore]

I think the irish should now face another vote to either

1. Ratify
or
2. Leave the union, and let the rest of us get on with trying to create something better than the status quo.

Fair enough point. How about all member states holding a referendum? Then, whichever countries vote as Ireland have done, give the people the choice to stay or go.

Where would that leave the EU project?

[The Lone Gunman]

I am with the Irish on this one.
If our British government incurs the wrath of the people we can all vote them out.
With Brussels we have no such power.

[meridian]

2. Leave the union, and let the rest of us get on with trying to create something better than the status quo.

Blimey, so if you get the chance to vote for something but vote against it you should leave?
You're not Gordon Brown by any chance, are you?

[Lucy]

Oi! Stop thinking. You're only allowed to rant and cliche-think like our resident thicko, Lucy.

What quals do you have again saddo?

None?

Hmmm.