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Hate crimes soar after bombings

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    #11
    Originally posted by Chico
    Who goes around carrying an axe?
    He went home to get it. Not that that excuses it. Chico, no one is disputing that the black lad tragically killed in Liverpool was killed primarily because of his colour.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Chico
      Who goes around carrying an axe?
      My point exactly.

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        #13
        What's your point LB? Can black people be racists, of course they can. Could this incident on the bus be racially motivated, absolutely but it would be irresponsible of the press to suggest this was without any evidence beyond the fact that the people involved were black and white, and so far there ain't none. Stuff like that happens all the time between two white guys, and between two black guys so your arguement seems a little flawed to me anyway.

        Have hate crimes gone up against muslims since the attacks, yeah. And I can partially understand why, but are you suggesting it's ok to go out and beat up yer local muslim cause of what happened on 7/7? Umm ...
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          #14
          Originally posted by snaw
          Have hate crimes gone up against muslims since the attacks, yeah. And I can partially understand why, but are you suggesting it's ok to go out and beat up yer local muslim cause of what happened on 7/7? Umm ...
          This of course is precisely what the fanatics want to happen
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            #15
            Originally posted by snaw
            are you suggesting it's ok to go out and beat up yer local muslim cause of what happened on 7/7? Umm ...
            What do you think?

            My point is merely observational, two equally heinous murders on the same day. One, black guy killed by white guy, news saturation coverage. The other, white guy killed by black guy, mentioned once on local news then forgotten.

            Are we getting hysterical about racism, which may be a symptom of something else anyway?

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              #16
              Originally posted by Lucifer Box
              What do you think?

              My point is merely observational, two equally heinous murders on the same day. One, black guy killed by white guy, news saturation coverage. The other, white guy killed by black guy, mentioned once on local news then forgotten.

              Are we getting hysterical about racism, which may be a symptom of something else anyway?
              Eh? One black guy get's chased after running away from a bunch of white guys hurling abuse and get's an axe embedded in his head. No one disputes this was a racist attack.

              Another white guy get's stabbed on a bus after confronting a black guy for throwing chips at people on the bus. There is no reason to suggest that the guy was targetted because he was white or that it wouldn't have happened the same way if the confronter had been back. No one is suggesting this was a racist attack, but somehow you see some anti-racist conspiracy theory ...

              Not being funny, but you are the one getting hysterical LB.
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                #17
                I think you're missing the point, Snaw.

                Why is one murder seemingly more heinous than the other? Both were vicious unprovoked attacks. One gets saturation news coverage, the other barely a mention.

                Maybe it is because racist murders are more heinous? I don't subscribe to that view, but some clearly do.

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                  #18
                  The reason why racial crimes or shall we say "cultural" (eg Northern Ireland) get more coverage is quite simply they often escalate and cause far more problems (in extreme cases ultimately civil war or genocide ) than say mugging or breaking into cars.

                  We only have to look at the Balkans or Africa to see how interacial conflict can escalate.
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                    #19
                    Beg to disagree

                    For once I disagree, Lucifer. The london incident happens all the time, terrible though it is - it is a result of an argument. Those of us who live in London would bear the chips in silence if the guy looked dangerous.
                    But its not often that a teenager is killed by embedding an axe in his head, especially when by all accounts he did not provoke the situation further.
                    BTW The London papers have given more coverage to the bus incident, so I just guess its where you are in the country.
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                      #20
                      Because one is just some guy going nuts on a buss, pretty regular occurance overall

                      Other is multiple guys over an extended period of time harrasing and persuing a kid and butching him with a axe, expecially important (for the papers) one of the suspects having links to someone "famous"

                      LB while i might agree with the bias about this in a lot of case's this really is not not one of them

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