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    Quote Originally Posted by bobspud View Post
    There is a vast number of jobs that are on the edge of doom.
    It's going to get interesting for sure. I think I'll have snuffed it before it gets really interesting to the level you speak of.

    (Even as a kid, I always thought I was born about 50 years too early to see the really good stuff)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platypus View Post
    Then why do we have a deficit? Can't we just print enough money and pay it off immediately, thereby saving the country billions in interest repayments?

    Bingo! I think you've got it. Drop a note to Phil Hammond immediately!
    Even if you told them they wouldn't listen, I don't think the current lot have any appreciation for macroeconomics, seven years to recover from a recession is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platypus View Post
    Then why do we have a deficit? Can't we just print enough money and pay it off immediately, thereby saving the country billions in interest repayments?

    Bingo! I think you've got it. Drop a note to Phil Hammond immediately!

    you are mixing up deficit and debt, as the politicians have encouraged you to do

    the national debt is around 2 trillion quid, plus a lot of things not on the books like PFI buildings we need to pay for one way or another, privatised ex public sector companies pension fund guarantees, and so on

    not easily paid off

    the deficit is just how much the national debt is going up, and the supposed success of getting this down is laughable considering how much the national debt is still going up

    the country itself is not that rich, as a nation we are in a lot of debt, they just count the wealth of the richest people living here to make the bold claim we are one of the richest countries when in practise the richest few percent could up sticks and move country at short notice leaving the remaining population with the national debt to worry about

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggat View Post
    Someone's been reading up on their A level economics
    wish I did do economics at A-Level . . . did English literature instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolCat View Post
    you are mixing up deficit and debt, as the politicians have encouraged you to do
    Thanks for the correction, I knew what I meant!

    But we can't just print money to pay off the debt, was my point, as I'm sure you'd agree.

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    another point - what would be the countries immigration policy if you had a UBI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by filthy1980 View Post
    wish I did do economics at A-Level . . . did English literature instead
    Nah. Micawber had the A level economics syllabus down to a tee. The other 2 years was just window dressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platypus View Post
    Scotland, for example?
    Scotland is a country? Huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by filthy1980 View Post
    wish I did do economics at A-Level . . . did English literature instead
    Economists are no more use than a high priestess reading runes...

    One might argue that readin pig entrails has more integrity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterscot View Post
    The only works in countries with a strong economy.
    I'm all in favour of it, because it's definitely the way of the future as most meaningful jobs will evaporate over the coming decades and not be replaced except by make-work jobs that aren't economically essential.

    (The full employment we supposedly have now is just in a matter of speaking a deceptively bright and sunny evening. But before long, jobs wise, dusk will be upon us and then eternal night )

    But universal benefits also only work in countries in complete control of their borders, and able and willing to promptly identify and sling out illegal immigrants.
    Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ here

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