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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobosapien View Post
    Surely they can't be far off having synthesised alternatives for the vitamin issue and for meat replacement itself where it's as good as the real thing. Sooner the better, and I'm not totally ignoring Quorn and the like, just that it's not good enough yet.
    The mrs went vegan a couple of months back which has made me 90% vegan as it's too much hassle to cook two dinners. There are some really good alternatives now - for example sainsburys do a mince which is really juicy and makes for a better chilli con(sin?) carne than beef mince. the key really is to avoid looking for meat alternatives and explore cuisine which never had meat in it - most traditional thai and indian food is vegan as they didn't have the refrigeration for meat and dairy. as for vitamins most of the soy/almond/coconut milk alternatives are vitamin and calcium enriched. it's really not that hard. at some point (brexit?) the subsidies will disappear and the cost of meat and dairy will force hoi polloi to look at alternatives which is good news for the environment.

    still nothing comes close to proper bacon though

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    Quote Originally Posted by deebeegee View Post
    The mrs went vegan a couple of months back which has made me 90% vegan as it's too much hassle to cook two dinners. There are some really good alternatives now - for example sainsburys do a mince which is really juicy and makes for a better chilli con(sin?) carne than beef mince. the key really is to avoid looking for meat alternatives and explore cuisine which never had meat in it - most traditional thai and indian food is vegan as they didn't have the refrigeration for meat and dairy. as for vitamins most of the soy/almond/coconut milk alternatives are vitamin and calcium enriched. it's really not that hard. at some point (brexit?) the subsidies will disappear and the cost of meat and dairy will force hoi polloi to look at alternatives which is good news for the environment.

    still nothing comes close to proper bacon though
    The majority of hot countries in the developing world don't have refrigeration but still eat meat, plus India has a large vitamin B12 and iron deficiency problem.

    Also the amount of vitamins and minerals in the alternatives is lower than in meat and dairy.
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    Excellent news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deebeegee View Post
    The mrs went vegan a couple of months back which has made me 90% vegan as it's too much hassle to cook two dinners. There are some really good alternatives now - for example sainsburys do a mince which is really juicy and makes for a better chilli con(sin?) carne than beef mince. the key really is to avoid looking for meat alternatives and explore cuisine which never had meat in it - most traditional thai and indian food is vegan as they didn't have the refrigeration for meat and dairy. as for vitamins most of the soy/almond/coconut milk alternatives are vitamin and calcium enriched. it's really not that hard. at some point (brexit?) the subsidies will disappear and the cost of meat and dairy will force hoi polloi to look at alternatives which is good news for the environment.

    still nothing comes close to proper bacon though
    Speaking as an ex-vegan turned lacto-ovo-vegetarian, make sure you both take a daily multi-vitamin (especially B12) + iron, possibly calcium. Ignore any vegan propaganda that this is unnecessary - it's very hard to achieve without supplements.

    Indian (and Middle Eastern - falafel + hummus) is the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deebeegee View Post
    still nothing comes close to proper bacon though
    Indeed. Seeing as the bacon/gammon flavour is from the curing process it only takes a determined scientist to genetically modify a plant to taste the same.

    So how to motivate the scientists to solve that problem? Rasher their bacon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobosapien View Post
    Indeed. Seeing as the bacon/gammon flavour is from the curing process it only takes a determined scientist to genetically modify a plant to taste the same.

    So how to motivate the scientists to solve that problem? Rasher their bacon.
    The scientist who figures this out will really be bringing home the bacon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobosapien View Post
    Indeed. Seeing as the bacon/gammon flavour is from the curing process it only takes a determined scientist to genetically modify a plant to taste the same.

    So how to motivate the scientists to solve that problem? Rasher their bacon.
    It's why the frazzle and hummus sandwich is a vegan classic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladyuk View Post
    It's why the frazzle and hummus sandwich is a vegan classic.

    If only the eggplant tasted of egg there'd be real options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobosapien View Post
    If only the eggplant tasted of egg there'd be real options.
    Chopped cooked pasta and mashed chickpea in vegan mayo with salt and black pepper makes a surprisingly good egg mayo substitute.

    Anyway, in terms of eggplant / aubergine, berenjenas fritas with miel de caña is where it is at.
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    will force hoi polloi to look at alternatives which is good news for the environment.
    Rubbish. It takes 10X the amount of land to produce weight for weight the same nutrients as meat. Our Nation which is currently 60% self sufficient in food would die of malnutrition before any perceived eco benefits would show. This of course may be the eco-warrior plan ...

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