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    Quote Originally Posted by SueEllen View Post
    Depends where you work.

    High heels can be a safety hazard.
    Understood, but the riggers boots don't go too well with the dress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Bloggs View Post
    Understood, but the riggers boots don't go too well with the dress.
    That depends on your perspective.

    I wore 14 hole Dockers with a full petticoat dress only a few weeks ago...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cojak View Post
    That depends on your perspective.

    I wore 14 hole Dockers with a full petticoat dress only a few weeks ago...
    You trendy little tinker cjk. We need to see the proof of that
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    Indeed.

    I work for a company who embrace diversity.

    In general it is fine but at times you end up with tokenism - which ultimately damages the company as you are not recruiting the best people you are recruiting the people to fill up your 'quota'

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    Quote Originally Posted by original PM View Post
    Indeed.

    I work for a company who embrace diversity.

    In general it is fine but at times you end up with tokenism - which ultimately damages the company as you are not recruiting the best people you are recruiting the people to fill up your 'quota'
    Well that's just stupid

    If you cannot hire someone then leave the role unfilled.

    Personally most companies I've been in the issues have been with young white middle class males. And I'm not saying other groups haven't caused problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SueEllen View Post
    Well that's just stupid

    If you cannot hire someone then leave the role unfilled.

    Personally most companies I've been in the issues have been with young white middle class males. And I'm not saying other groups haven't caused problems.
    Indeed - the right person for the job is the right person for the job - their colour/creed/sex etc should not even come into it.

    But thats the problem with positive discrimination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by original PM View Post
    Indeed - the right person for the job is the right person for the job - their colour/creed/sex etc should not even come into it.

    But thats the problem with positive discrimination.
    Nope actually that's not the problem with positive discrimination. The problem is when people they specifically choose don't fulfill the other criteria so can't do the job.

    I actually know of an illegal case of positive discrimination years ago. A male teacher was deliberately choose over all the female applicants for a teaching role. The reason he was chosen was to improve the gender balance of the school and the fact there were many children specifically boys without a male role model in their lives.
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    A riposte from somebody who's recently left a fairly senior position at Google: https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/so...o-1e3773ed1788

    (1) Despite speaking very authoritatively, the author does not appear to understand gender.

    (2) Perhaps more interestingly, the author does not appear to understand engineering.

    (3) And most seriously, the author does not appear to understand the consequences of what he wrote, either for others or himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by original PM View Post
    Indeed - the right person for the job is the right person for the job - their colour/creed/sex etc should not even come into it.

    But thats the problem with positive discrimination.
    or age...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickFitz View Post
    A riposte from somebody who's recently left a fairly senior position at Google: https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/so...o-1e3773ed1788
    Seeing as I can apparently define my own gender label on a daily basis - what is gender?

    And who is anyone to say who 'understands' it.

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