All diesel and petrol car sales to be banned

[Antman]

I'm surprised those mini "bike-cars" never took off in cities. I think BMW made one? It's just a bit bigger than a bike but enclosed, so you are protected from the elements. Much cheaper to run, easier to park and makes a lot more sense than the current model of using a 1T machine to move an 80kg human.

I remember seeing them the problem is that you can't get a pillion passenger and because of the fixed mirrors you couldn't really filter through traffic like a scooter. However it was fully protective shell with a seat belt so you didn't need a helmet.

[Mordac]

Most of the UK roads are now only about 50% tarmac. The rest being missing surface, pot hole and badly repaired lumps.

Exactly (you forgot speed bumps). And 4 wheel drive is a lot safer in the wet, snow & ice, i.e. on the 345 days the sun isn't shining.

[Mordac]

Cities should have had something like a congestion charge for all regular vehicles and made bikes/car-bikes exempt along with building trucks and delivery vehicles. We have plenty of grocery delivery services now, so having a boot isn't really required for day to day life anymore.

It isn't if you never have to travel with luggage, or never buy anything larger than a packet of fags, or you don't have children or a dog. Motorbikes have one useful purpose - they provide a ready supply of donor organs.

[BrilloPad]

so having a boot isn't really required for day to day life anymore.

How do I transport the bodies of my ex-wives?

[greenlake]

How do I transport the bodies of my ex-wives?

On yer bike....

[Dark Black]

Exactly (you forgot speed bumps). And 4 wheel drive is a lot safer in the wet, snow & ice, i.e. on the 345 days the sun isn't shining.

A two wheel drive vehicle with a decent set of tyres for the conditions (e.g winter tyres in the winter), and with a driver with a modicum of driving ability*, is perfectly safe...


*something that does seem to be increasingly lacking these days - I swear it's down to complacency and/or laziness due to all the driver aids in modern cars.

[Paddy]

A two wheel drive vehicle with a decent set of tyres for the conditions (e.g winter tyres in the winter), and with a driver with a modicum of driving ability*, is perfectly safe...


*something that does seem to be increasingly lacking these days - I swear it's down to complacency and/or laziness due to all the driver aids in modern cars.

And what about paraplegics? How do you give a ninety year old granny a lift? What about high winds and snow?

[greenlake]

How do you give a ninety year old granny a lift?

Do you not learn anything from the movies....?

[Dark Black]

And what about paraplegics? How do you give a ninety year old granny a lift? What about high winds and snow?

Eh?

[scooterscot]

And 4 wheel drive is a lot safer in the wet, snow & ice, i.e. on the 345 days the sun isn't shining.

I'd reckon having the correct tyres is a lot safer than a 4x4 when it comes to snow and wet. Use your gears when slowing down on ice.