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This girl made the ultimate Brexit
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostAnother one who can't follow a simple argument. Yeah yeah. Because it's absolutely vile to suggest that since the results of the referendum became known, racism and xenophobia have increased markedly. Not much of a stretch to go from that and naming the key architects of the referendum bearing some responsibility. Personally, I doubt it was a real factor. Teens have been committing suicide for decades for all kinds of reasons. I'm personally aware of three.
All this huff and puff sounds somewhat disingenuous - akin to virtue signalling. YMMV. Pretty cynical, isn't it, to use this poor girls death to indulge in mod-bashing.
As usual mods with their jackboots on. Its good training for how Europe is going to be under Germany.Comment
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Originally posted by Mordac View PostHe lets anything go if it's having a dig at Brexit.
I let this go not because it has a dig at Brexiters, but because I don't think it is an unreasonable comment to make. I.e. that since the referendum, xenophobia has increased, especially against the Poles, and this may have had some influence on the girl's decision to kill herself. By extrapolation, it's also not unreasonable to consider that the initiators of Brexit bear some responsibility for the increasingly xenophobic culture of Britain, and therefore for the death.
As I've already stated, my personal view is that xenophobia has increased, but probably wasn't a factor in this case.
Obviously, woohoo and others think that xenophobia hasn't increased and/or it wasn't an influencing factor in this case and/or it's nothing to do with the decision to leave the EU. Feel free to debate that. It doesn't seem an unreasonable thing to discuss, even if it is emotionally charged.Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
I let this go because I am a twunt of the first order, a bitter Bremoaner, and a fooking hopeless Moderator that couldn't be trusted to count his gonads and get the same number twice
“The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”Comment
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostBy extrapolation, it's also not unreasonable to consider that the initiators of Brexit bear some responsibility for the increasingly xenophobic culture of Britain, and therefore for the death.
The reason for Brexit was inequality. Xenophobia was an unfortunate side effect, from people who would always be bigoted about something.Comment
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostI let anything go if it has a dig a Bremoaners as well.
I let this go not because it has a dig at Brexiters, but because I don't think it is an unreasonable comment to make. I.e. that since the referendum, xenophobia has increased, especially against the Poles, and this may have had some influence on the girl's decision to kill herself. By extrapolation, it's also not unreasonable to consider that the initiators of Brexit bear some responsibility for the increasingly xenophobic culture of Britain, and therefore for the death.
As I've already stated, my personal view is that xenophobia has increased, but probably wasn't a factor in this case.
Obviously, woohoo and others think that xenophobia hasn't increased and/or it wasn't an influencing factor in this case and/or it's nothing to do with the decision to leave the EU. Feel free to debate that. It doesn't seem an unreasonable thing to discuss, even if it is emotionally charged.His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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Originally posted by Mordac View PostThat Sir, is straight-from-the-Graun bollocks. And precisely why would you think xenephobia has increased, when you don't even live here? As I said previously, the Cornish tend to be xenephobic towards anyone not from their village (as witnessed by the grief Rick Stein has been experiencing) so you can't use an incident in Cornwall to scale up for Britain as a whole.Comment
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostThe reason for Brexit was inequality. Xenophobia was an unfortunate side effect, from people who would always be bigoted about something.
Originally posted by Mordac View PostThat Sir, is straight-from-the-Graun bollocks
I've already stated that I don't believe that this suicide can be attributed to Brexit, so your argument that the Cornish are racist beggers to begin with and nothing has changed may well be true, but only supports what I said.
so you can't use an incident in Cornwall to scale up for Britain as a whole.Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostOK, fair enough; they will always have been bigoted, so perhaps it is incorrect to say xenophobia has increased. More accurately then to say the expression of xenophobia has increased since the referendum. More hate crime, more racism on the streets etc.
I wouldn't know. I don't have to live in the UK to know that the willingness to express xenophobia has increased. I'm still in contact with people who live there, I do visit from time to time, and I do read posts on this forum.
I've already stated that I don't believe that this suicide can be attributed to Brexit, so your argument that the Cornish are racist beggers to begin with and nothing has changed may well be true, but only supports what I said.His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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