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David Davis will tell the European Union: you can't

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    #11
    Originally posted by excon View Post
    There are none so blind as those who will not see. Yanis Varoufakis, you may remember him from the Greek debt crisis? Has recent experience negotiating with Angela Merkel and the EU. Your just some bloke on a chat forum, just a gentle reminder.
    Yes, I remember very well how he fooked up negotiations and had to be fired.

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      #12
      Originally posted by original PM View Post
      We do need to get out from under the ECJ.

      It can and does simply dictate laws which we have to implement with no say (according to some guy on R4 on Friday)

      And that simply needs to stop.
      Err, no it doesn't. It's a court, not a legislature.

      The European Commission has the initiative to propose legislation. During the ordinary legislative procedure, the Council (which are ministers from member state governments) and the European Parliament (elected by citizens) can make amendments and must give their consent for laws to pass.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_law

      If you want a say in the laws that the EU propose to implement, just contact your local MEP representative. It's called "democracy".

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        #13
        Originally posted by meridian View Post
        Err, no it doesn't. It's a court, not a legislature.



        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_law

        If you want a say in the laws that the EU propose to implement, just contact your local MEP representative. It's called "democracy".
        By not wanting to be under the jurisdiction is basically because the UK government wishes to flout the rules and behave like an untrustworthy "Banana Republic".

        in that case bye bye financial services.
        I'm alright Jack

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          #14
          Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
          By not wanting to be under the jurisdiction is basically because the UK government wishes to flout the rules and behave like an untrustworthy "Banana Republic".

          in that case bye bye financial services.
          So then we look at Asia, and Africa, and South America and all the other areas of the world who are growing and developing.
          http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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            #15
            Originally posted by meridian View Post
            Err, no it doesn't. It's a court, not a legislature.



            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_law

            If you want a say in the laws that the EU propose to implement, just contact your local MEP representative. It's called "democracy".
            Do not confuse the Court of Justice of the European Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_...European_Union with the ECJ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Court_of_Justice

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              #16
              Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
              By not wanting to be under the jurisdiction is basically because the UK government wishes to flout the rules and behave like an untrustworthy "Banana Republic".

              in that case bye bye financial services.
              I wouldn't go quite that far - the UK high/supreme courts are still seen as independent arbiters not subject to government coercion, we're not quite a banana republic yet! . The problem is one of jurisdiction and agreeing which courts any arbitration can be appealed to and which legislation takes precedence as primary law.

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                #17
                Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
                So then we look at Asia, and Africa, and South America and all the other areas of the world who are growing and developing.
                Brilliant idea - let's sell them stuff like legal services where hourly rate is higher than annual wage there.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by original PM View Post
                  Do not confuse the Court of Justice of the European Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_...European_Union with the ECJ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Court_of_Justice
                  I'm not, but thank you for the links.

                  Neither of them "dictate laws which we have to implement with no say".

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by AtW View Post
                    Brilliant idea - let's sell them stuff like legal services where hourly rate is higher than annual wage there.
                    Follow the growth...
                    http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by meridian View Post
                      I'm not, but thank you for the links.

                      Neither of them "dictate laws which we have to implement with no say".
                      Yes they do..."Paragraph 4, Subsection 2 - Brexit Handbook"
                      Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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