Oh Dear. How Sad. Nevermind.

[vetran]

...and these refugees that the alt right on here want to "turn back with gun boats", are they all Muslim terrorists, or are some of them fleeing persecution? Are some of them fleeing bombings?
The far right on this forum would like to bomb all Muslims out of existence. They would like to destroy any country in the Middle East(*). And while they post their vile hatred on here, they struggle to see the similarity between their attitude and the actions they want/support, and the attitude and actions of the people they want to carry out their final solution on.

And the looney left all want to welcome them in & spend someone else's money on them whilst accusing anyone who disagrees of being a racist & fascist.

Plenty of research suggests the majority are economic migrants and ISIS etc. have suggested a significant proportion are infiltrators. As they have all crossed safe countries to get to the UK they aren't refugees.

I would prefer to take in the unaccompanied minors (10 & under) from the refugee camps like David Cameron suggested.

Obviously that makes me extreme right instead of naive and stupid ....

[WTFH]

Obviously that makes me extreme right instead of naive and stupid ....

No, preaching isolation, segregation, racism and hatred, while ridiculing anyone who dares to suggest education and integration is what makes people extreme right.

[vetran]

No, preaching isolation, segregation, racism and hatred, while ridiculing anyone who dares to suggest education and integration is what makes people extreme right.

they had an opportunity to integrate they chose not to, how do you fix that?

Which race are we hating, please be specific?

I haven't ridiculed anyone, I just used the opposite of your insult.

[NotAllThere]

I haven't seen any "far" right people on this forum.
All there are is people such as myself who form the "normal" right, and advocate firm but sensible policies to deal with the problem.
The idea that there is a large number of "far right" people on this forum, or the country at large, is a wet dream located only in the minds of left-wing mind-bended socialists, and other loonies.

The far right fantasise themselves as mainstream and somehow representing majority opinion. You are a case in point. I am a life-long Tory voter, somewhere in the middle of the Tory spectrum (though not euro-sceptic), yet I'm accused by you and your ilk of being a left winger. It's really bizarre.

Would you consider Katie Hopkins far right?

For him, Hitler was a liberal wet.

[WTFH]

they had an opportunity to integrate they chose not to, how do you fix that?

I'd fix that by changing "had" to "have" and then trying not to marginalise anyone who hasn't lived in this country for at least 5 generations.

[Mordac]

Katie Hopkins has been sacked by LBC.

Katie Hopkins To Leave LBC Radio 'Immediately' | HuffPost UK

Not that they were sad to see her go by all accounts.

Poor thing, how's she going to pay all those libel costs? Oh, I've just remembered, I don't care.

[GJABS]

The far right fantasise themselves as mainstream and somehow representing majority opinion. You are a case in point. I am a life-long Tory voter, somewhere in the middle of the Tory spectrum (though not euro-sceptic), yet I'm accused by you and your ilk of being a left winger. It's really bizarre.

It depends on what you define as "far right".

Winston Churchill was not "far right", and what did he have to say about muslims? Well the following is a quote taken from Snopes.com, the "urban legend" verification website, which states that the following quote by the great man is TRUE:

"Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world"

Winston Churchill on Islam

If he had said that publicly today, he would have been roundly criticised, and possibly criminalised under anti-discrimination laws.


I don't claim to hold a "majority" opinion. The reason for this being that people in the UK have become weak, from a cultural perspective, and have allowed themselves to be influenced by a somewhat anti-British narrative from the media.
So it is the rest of the population that has moved away from my (and others') lines of reasoning, leading it to cease being "mainstream", to what is denounced now as "far right".

I agree that your opinion IS mainstream. But much of "mainstream" opinion is culturally left-wing nowadays. Don't take it as a personal criticism - the influences are structural and deeply entrenched, and in many ways no-one can expect people to be anything else given the circumstances.

[NotAllThere]

Your logic is flawed.

1. Churchill was not far right
2. I agree with something Churchill said
3. Therefore I am not far right.

Unfortunately 3 does not necessarily follow from 1 and 2. Churchill did not express many of the other views you hold.

FWIW, I agree with Churchill. Islam was a progressive force at one time. It is now regressive.

[BrilloPad]

I'd fix that by changing "had" to "have" and then trying not to marginalise anyone who hasn't lived in this country for at least 5 generations.

Reminds me of a Swiss chap I once worked with. "I am not Swiss originally. I am Italian. My family came here in the 13th century"

[darmstadt]

Talking of the loony left:

SHOW YOUR FACE IN A
PUBLIC PLACE
UKIP will ban wearing of
the niqab and the burqa in
public places. Face coverings
such as these are barriers
to integration. We will not
accept these de-humanising
symbols of segregation and
oppression, nor the security
risks they pose.
Suggestions that UKIP is
undermining liberty with this
policy are absurd. There is no
human right to conceal your
identity. If anything prevents
liberty, it is the niqab, by
preventing women from being
perceived as individuals in their
own right. We want to open
opportunities to all women, so
that they can participate fully
in life and in the workplace.
Clothing that hides identity, puts
up barriers to communication,
limits employment opportunities,
hides evidence of domestic
abuse, and prevents intake of
essential vitamin D from sunlight
is not liberating.
We stand in solidarity with
women worldwide who
are rebelling against the
imposition of the niqab
and burqa.

And the BJ boat:

A DEDICATED BRITISH HOSPITAL SHIP
British medical expertise and disaster support is
among the best in the world. Our help is always
welcome in the aftermath of natural disaster,
disease epidemic, or famine. To increase the
contribution Britain can make in times of global
crises, UKIP will commission, equip and staff a
Naval Ocean-Going Surgical Hospital (NOSH).
...
The new NOSH will have at least 500 beds, a
flight deck and large hangar to support several
helicopters, as well as vehicle decks. It will be
a highly visible ambassador for Britain, and
will replace the Royal Navy’s current sea-borne
medical capability, RFA ARGUS, which is set to
retire in 2020. It will not carry weapons, giving
it the full protection of the Geneva Convention
in times of war.