Explosion in Manchester

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National service
Bring it in for all UK residents aged 16-30 for two years

Good idea. And I could sign up to Dad's Army. Those Jihadists don't like it up 'em.

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I certainly hope you're right on that, but isn't there at least a possibility they could choose an easy target rather take than a high risk of being caught? It might actually be more effective for the terrorists propaganda-wise.

Most people don't go to major national events or tourist spots all that often and, as they are mostly well protected, they think the chance of them being affected is very low. On the other hand, if people were killed at a local event, and it is impossible to protect them all, then nobody would feel safe. I think the terrorists would rather like that. There could also be a rise in local tensions, that would be a plus for them too.

The risk is always there, regardless of the time or place, but I will still maintain that large events are perceived by terrorists as more attractive. I think that the Manchester event was not chosen accidentally, it was a concert attended by teens, mostly female. Whoever decided to detonate an explosive there likely hated girls and young women who are not afraid to have fun, dress as they please, and not bow down to sad men in dresses who hate half of the world's population.

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Nearly 400 posts of hand wringing and blaming Brexit.

There are solutions. Though they are too radical to be implemented. Soon the victims will be forgotten. Until the next attack. Rinse and repeat.

As long as the Tories encourage supplying ISIS with weapons, you can blame anyone you want to. But money and supporting the Tory party is more important than the lives of people in Manchester to some individuals

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UK stopping intelligence sharing with the US on Manchester terrorist investigation.

Sorry America, you let the side down big time on this one.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40040210

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Nearly 400 posts of hand wringing and blaming Brexit.

There are solutions. Though they are too radical to be implemented. Soon the victims will be forgotten. Until the next attack. Rinse and repeat.

And they are?

I don't think any one is "hand wringing" and only some are blaming brexit, but they blame brexit for the sun coming up in the morning and stealing the British night.

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Not sure what soldiers do most the time anyway if there's no war on. Sure somebody less lazy than me will look it up.

There is always a war somewhere!

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Bring it in for all UK residents aged 16-30 for two years.

All the lads together under tough discipline.

They would come out brothers.

You can't divide the tribe.

The UK is already struggling under the weight of pressure from countless ex-service men and women, how do you think it would be if there were even more.

Also the days of beasting etc. are long gone, new recruits have rights and if they don't want to be there in the first place they can't be forced to be disciplined any more than the police can with the threat of jail

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Bring it in for all UK residents aged 16-30 for two years.

All the lads together under tough discipline.

They would come out brothers.

You can't divide the tribe.

Sir Humphrey: Mr. Woolley, are you worried about the number of young people without jobs?
Bernard Woolley: Yes
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Are you worried about the rise in crime among teenagers?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think there is lack of discipline in our Comprehensive Schools?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think young people welcome some authority and leadership in their lives?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think they respond to a challenge?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Would you be in favour of reintroducing National Service?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Mr. Woolley, are you worried about the danger of war?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Are you worried about the growth of armaments?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think there's a danger in giving young people guns and teaching them how to kill?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think it's wrong to force people to take arms against their will?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Would you oppose the reintroduction of National Service?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: There you are, you see, Bernard. The perfect balanced sample.

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Sir Humphrey: Mr. Woolley, are you worried about the number of young people without jobs?
Bernard Woolley: Yes
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Are you worried about the rise in crime among teenagers?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think there is lack of discipline in our Comprehensive Schools?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think young people welcome some authority and leadership in their lives?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think they respond to a challenge?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Would you be in favour of reintroducing National Service?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Mr. Woolley, are you worried about the danger of war?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Are you worried about the growth of armaments?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think there's a danger in giving young people guns and teaching them how to kill?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think it's wrong to force people to take arms against their will?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Would you oppose the reintroduction of National Service?
Bernard Woolley: Yes.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: There you are, you see, Bernard. The perfect balanced sample.

The scary thing 37 years after Yes Minister started, it's still perfectly apropos for most situations of today (although now the Sun have stopped getting tit's out on it's page that one is no longer used as much)

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As long as the Tories encourage supplying ISIS with weapons, you can blame anyone you want to. But money and supporting the Tory party is more important than the lives of people in Manchester to some individuals

ISIS seem to be carrying AK47's in most pictures, if we were selling them SA80's or even L115A3's I think we can blame the tories but also be a little bit proud they are still doing something for the economy