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    #21
    Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
    Of course I give a tulip!

    There is a disproportionately high amount of crime in ethnic minorities and migrants. This in my view stems from poor integration, loose borders, and a reluctance to examine the issues for fear of being branded a racist xenophobe.
    I've just registered, after many years of reading this forum, due to your posts PurpleGorilla.

    Something has happened to you over the years. Could be in your personal life, could be from the media you are choosing to veer your eyes toward every day. If you look back to a couple of years ago your posts seem left wing to centrist and overall rather friendly. They have lurched to the right in recent times.

    A hugely vast majority of crimes in any given genre are committed by British nationals within Britain. If you read the DailyMail, and consider that a reputable source of newsworthiness, then yes - all could trend towards thinking as you do.

    You should instead rely upon ethnography research and informed opinion. UK newspapers are mostly owned by oligarchs who are keen to protect their monied interests - this being the reason why they do not wish higher taxes. From your posts I suspect you vote Tory. Riddle me this: the deficit is now increasing (per diem) at the highest rate ever known in this country, yet embarking upon austerity and engineering the poor to be worse off actually has the reaction of making them lurch to the Tories, perpetuating their own demise.

    Immigrants and asylum seekers aren't the problem in the UK and they never have been. The problem is populist policy pandering to the middle to upper classes, ensuring a perpetual cycle of destruction for the past 50 years post-war era. You can adequately judge a country by how it treats its poorer people within the population.

    What country(ies) do you see the UK - actually, England - aiming towards? For me it is Scandinavia: We should really be aiming for a happy harmonious society - yes, still numerous issues, including with violence, but there always is, it just needs to be minimised - but an overall much better attitude in society to aim towards happiness.

    The UK is too disparate in wealth and income inequality is causing the country to gradually implode. Consider these matters before swinging massively in the wrong direction PurpleGorilla. In fact, go read your own longer posts from years ago and compare them to now.

    Your anger is misplaced.

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      #22
      Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
      Six held over London attack on teenage asylum seeker | Daily Mail Online

      In that case as well as the one mentioned, if the victims hadn't been allowed in then the attacks wouldn't have happened. Maybe PG is right.
      Disgusting and seems like the attackers were home grown . I suspect whatever happened they would probably have done something unpleasant in the UK. As they are home grown we have to accept it as a thing we cannot easily prevent and prosecute as much as possible.

      Not sure you can compare a gang beating someone up even this badly, to someone murdering a mother & kids though.

      I think the senseless violence that is being perpetrated by imported criminals is the driver here.
      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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        #23
        Originally posted by vetran View Post
        I think the senseless violence that is being perpetrated by imported criminals is the driver here.
        No, it's senseless violence that is the problem.
        Some are obsessed with highlighting the occasions when the criminals are foreign, non-white, non-Christian, etc.
        ...and then after finding those differences, they are keen to highlight them and say that these people do not integrate.
        How do you integrate into a society where the vocal ones hate you and are obsessed with blaming you? And why would you bother trying to integrate with them?
        …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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          #24
          Originally posted by vetran View Post
          Disgusting and seems like the attackers were home grown . I suspect whatever happened they would probably have done something unpleasant in the UK. As they are home grown we have to accept it as a thing we cannot easily prevent and prosecute as much as possible.

          Not sure you can compare a gang beating someone up even this badly, to someone murdering a mother & kids though.

          I think the senseless violence that is being perpetrated by imported criminals is the driver here.
          It was just the mother killed - the kids weren't killed. But Jesus wept, why?
          http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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            #25
            Originally posted by WTFH View Post
            No, it's senseless violence that is the problem.
            Some are obsessed with highlighting the occasions when the criminals are foreign, non-white, non-Christian, etc.
            ...and then after finding those differences, they are keen to highlight them and say that these people do not integrate.
            How do you integrate into a society where the vocal ones hate you and are obsessed with blaming you? And why would you bother trying to integrate with them?
            The violence shows they are integrated.

            In the 70s they would be the ones getting the beatings. Now they are doing the beatings.
            "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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              #26
              The world is a horrible place, I feel guilty about bringing my son in to it, I feel sick every time I read the papers, IS, Asaad killing children, the world is truly f*cked up, I don't understand how life can be so cheap to people what's gone wrong...... Last year I was in Tesco in Dalston Junction queuing for the self checkout when a young lad came running in and stood there, took me a few seconds to see it but he was standing in pool of blood at first I thought he had dropped a bottle of red wine but the kid had been stabbed Dalston stabbing: Bloodied victim staggers into Tesco for help after broad daylight knife attack | London Evening Standard

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                #27
                Originally posted by BoggyMcCBoggyFace View Post
                The world is a horrible place, I feel guilty about bringing my son in to it
                You son will pay you back at some point.....

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by original PM View Post
                    In which case why don't you **** off to Saudi Arabia?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
                      In which case why don't you **** off to Saudi Arabia?
                      So not a theme you think is worth exploring?

                      We should just accept the erosion of morals and values which have made 'insert country name here' into what it is?

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