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Schottland plant neues Unabhängigkeitsreferendum

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    #11
    Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
    Looks like there's going to be one in Ireland...
    Just imagine the bitterness of Scotland's Indyref mixed with the tinderbox that NI is. You'll see a return to violence if this is the case.

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      #12
      Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
      The Germans can say what they like but they alone don't run Europe (although they want to).
      According to the Brexit camp Germany = EU. What Germany wants Germany gets. So suck it up.
      "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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        #13
        Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
        According to the Brexit camp Germany = EU. What Germany wants Germany gets. So suck it up.
        So it is the Fourth Reich after all.

        The Poles seem to want to disagree.

        All's well in eu land.

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          #14
          Originally posted by GB9 View Post
          So it is the Fourth Reich after all.

          The Poles seem to want to disagree.

          All's well in eu land.
          Why are you so obsessed with whats happening in Euroland.
          We're leaving this week remember.
          Or do you just lurve them all so much?
          GB9 and EU27 sittin in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
          Hard Brexit now!
          #prayfornodeal

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            #15
            Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
            Hadrian managed it nearly 2,000 years ago. HTHBIDI
            Antonine chose a better route for his wall further north, roughly between Glasgow and Edinburgh I think.

            Come to think of it, south of that line the inhabitants are what highland Scots disparagingly call Sassenachs aren't they? That means Saxons, i.e. like most of us in England.

            So if the Scots did vote for independence then it stands to reason that England should be extended north to a line between, say, Glasgow and Stirling, and then the Scots have the highlands. Fair's fair!
            Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ here

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              #16
              Scotland doesn't want to leave Europe why? For all the amazing trade they do with the EU?

              And yet I read recently that Scotland's exports to the remainder of the UK are 63% of its total exports.

              By the argument that says don't leave your biggest trading partner, they should remain in the UK.

              For remainers who say that leaving your biggest trading partner is madness, they should stay.

              She has to ask for a referendum to maintain her political career, otherwise what['s the point of her?


              EDIT I'm not against a 2nd referendum, but it's a waste of time and money and will cause even more hatred between a minority of Scots and the English.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Platypus View Post
                Scotland doesn't want to leave Europe why? For all the amazing trade they do with the EU?
                It's not soley about economics, it's also about the sort of country you want to live in.

                One bloke I saw on telly earlier made the point that one thing in favour of independence is it's the only way Scotland won't be stuck with a Conservative government for the next 10 years. Which is a fair point, especially as the new Conservative government has lurched further to the right and there's nobody to oppose them.
                Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The_Equalizer View Post
                  Just imagine the bitterness of Scotland's Indyref mixed with the tinderbox that NI is. You'll see a return to violence if this is the case.
                  ... served on a bed of Bretinsim.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
                    It's not soley about economics, it's also about the sort of country you want to live in.

                    One bloke I saw on telly earlier made the point that one thing in favour of independence is it's the only way Scotland won't be stuck with a Conservative government for the next 10 years. Which is a fair point, especially as the new Conservative government has lurched further to the right and there's nobody to oppose them.
                    They have an SNP government up there, if they actually held their MSP's to account they could be independant but with Subsidies.
                    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Platypus View Post
                      Scotland doesn't want to leave Europe why? For all the amazing trade they do with the EU?

                      And yet I read recently that Scotland's exports to the remainder of the UK are 63% of its total exports..
                      Yes but loads% of that 63% is exported to the EU at the end of the day. That'll likely increase when England leaves the EU with Scotland exporting directly. Them companies in England will just move north.

                      Services are easily mobile. You can't believe the landscape will not change when the world around them does. That's just too naive.
                      "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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