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    Er, I think Parliament can and will decide whether Parliament can have a veto. They're voting on the Lords amendments tomorrow. If the Commons decides that it shouldn't have a veto (i.e. that it rejects the Lords amendment on a "meaningful vote") and the Lords concurs on the revised Bill, then that's Parliamentary sovereignty fulfilled

    The "meaningful vote" is meaningless BTW, because HMG is not going to recommend a "bad deal", and no deal would be quickly followed by a motion of no confidence and a GE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbrown View Post
    no deal would be quickly followed by a motion of no confidence and a GE.
    Boris says "no deal" is also a fine deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtW View Post
    Boris says "no deal" is also a fine deal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Theresa May;
    "No deal for Britain is better than a bad deal for Britain,"
    2 years...
    If people like Rupert Murdoch, Nigel Farage, George Galloway, Nick Griffin and Marine Le Pen want Britain to leave the EU. Where does that put you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtW View Post
    Boris says "no deal" is also a fine deal.
    I'm not sure what Boris has to do with Parliamentary sovereignty, but I suspect that, regardless of the manifest incompetence of HMO, they will think differently, and they can easily bring about a vote. If no deal emerges, there will be a GE, and all the remainers will have ample opportunity to backpeddle on a few stages of grieving and vote in Wallace and Gromit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darmstadt View Post
    2 years...
    No deal will happen a lot quicker than 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtW View Post
    I am all for voting on referendums, but NOT once in a generation, and also any major change should be approved by more than 1% majority - more importantly anybody who makes major fraudlent claims during vote should go to jail for a very long time.
    I assume that includes:

    - immediately triggering A50 (didn't happen)
    - immediate emergency budget (didn't happen)
    - Cost of 4,300 per family per annum (didn't happen)
    etc......

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbrown View Post
    I'm not sure what Boris has to do with Parliamentary sovereignty, but I suspect that, regardless of the manifest incompetence of HMO, they will think differently, and they can easily bring about a vote. If no deal emerges, there will be a GE, and all the remainers will have ample opportunity to backpeddle on a few stages of grieving and vote in Wallace and Gromit.
    Now what do we mean by Parliamentary Sovereignty?

    To me, that's the electable house as opposed to the unelected. What's the point of moving from the control of one unelected body to another?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB9 View Post
    I assume that includes:

    - immediately triggering A50 (didn't happen)
    - immediate emergency budget (didn't happen)
    - Cost of 4,300 per family per annum (didn't happen)
    etc......
    Osbourne has had to suffer the indignity of a new 650,000 a year, 4 days a month gig with Blackrock. Probably no WFH opportunities there!

    He's had his punishment now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopper View Post
    Osbourne has had to suffer the indignity of a new 650,000 a year, 4 days a month gig with Blackrock. Probably no WFH opportunities there!

    He's had his punishment now.
    jealousy is a terrible thing.
    "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

    I want to see the hand of history on his collar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    So lets not bother with voting then. Lets just decide what is best for the country.
    When you vote for your MP, you're choosing the person who will decide what is best for his constituency (either as on its own or as part of the country), regardless of the wishes of the actual members of that constituency - though the views of those who voted for him might carry some weight. Parliament then decide what is best for the country - again, largely regardless of the wishes of the citizens.

    Quote Originally Posted by AtW View Post
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    It would be sad if I get kicked out from country, but on a plus side I'd pay a lot less tax.
    Have a chat with the authorities of Zug, Switzerland. They like to give good deals on tax to wealthy companies.
    You won. Get over it.

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