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    Default Project Manager Uselessness

    What use are most PMs really? My 7 year old can do a fooking Gantt chart.
    Is it a case of those with the talent earn the big bucks and those who can't PM?
    In any case most ex and current PMs come across as thick as pig-tulip.
    It's becoming the case that senior devs increasingly take on the PM - that makes sense as they'll understand the issues and can even get their hands dirty if needs be.
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    Oh dear, has someone told you to pull your socks up. Don't worry, happens to everyone(well except me) at some time.
    What happens in General, stays in General.
    You know what they say about assumptions!

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    Mine doesn't even have the guts to call me out even though I've started rocking up at 10.00am.
    ...my quagmire of greed....my cesspit of laziness and unfairness....all I am doing is sticking two fingers up at nurses, doctors and other hard working employed professionals...

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    PM: stek, how long to build a dual VIO POWER8 frame?

    stek: Oh, about 3 days (reality; half a day)

    PM: OK, let me know when you've started it.

    stek: On it now, doing it as fast as I can.......

    PM walks off......

    stek: (Puts feet up and relaxes..) Baldrick, put the kettle on.....

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    We've not had a PM since November, can't say we have noticed much of a difference
    “Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonMac View Post
    We've not had a PM since November, can't say we have noticed much of a difference
    One project, on our third one in the year. makes for fun.

    We do have prettier Microsoft project charts.
    "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

    I want to see the hand of history on his collar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasguru View Post
    Is it a case of those with the talent earn the big bucks and those who can't PM?
    And you're the exception, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarillionFan View Post
    Oh dear, has someone told you to pull your socks up. Don't worry, happens to everyone(well except me)
    That's 'cos you run around snot-nosed and barefoot, isn't it. I just hope you remembered to put your pants and trousers on this morning.
    You won. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasguru View Post
    In any case most ex and current PMs come across as thick as pig-tulip.
    That's normally my base starting point, it ensures that I am never disappointed

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    Quote Originally Posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    Insight, you are right in your analysis of the situation. The problem is not the fact that you do not have a seven day notice clause, it is that the client has a seven day notice clause to get rid of you.

    I have always found that if a contractor really wants to leave there is little that can (or should) be done to prevent it. This is because most contractors are quite professional in managing their departure. These clauses should only ever be invoked if a contractor does something very naughty . The fact that they are there is really a deterrence rather than anything else.
    Hey hey
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