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    oh oh teach

    Having years of accounts no one is willing to sign off because of a few billion in irregularities yet still demanding money from members?

    An MEP getting €306 per day (on top of their €96,240 salary & €4,320 per month for expenses) for signing the attendance book and then going to ravish your mistress in Brussels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antman View Post
    Wasn't UK spending actually similar to France spending, just that the UK figure includes Pension liabilities?
    Dunno mate.

    http://nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/a...pr2016-116.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB9 View Post
    I need an EU example though.
    Wanting favoured tariff free access to the Single market without accepting FOM.

    A bit like CETA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
    The benefit of NATO membership is shared defence, the obligation is 2% of GDP spent on defence.

    Have your cake and eating it would be to want the protection of NATO but not pay the 2%.

    Oh hang on a sec...
    NATO still works?

    The US spends much but is nothing to do with NATO membership, that you can be sure of.

    Interestingly, some of the most peaceful nations in that list are the same ones that spend the least. Coincidence or something more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterscot View Post
    NATO still works?

    The US spends much but is nothing to do with NATO membership, that you can be sure of.

    Interestingly, some of the most peaceful nations in that list are the same ones that spend the least. Coincidence or something more?

    Yes or No answer will do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
    I like to keep my car fuel tank at least a quarter full, because in an emergency at 2am I don't want to be worrying about filling up.
    Scooter thinks its the governments / voters fault he has an empty tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
    The benefit of NATO membership is shared defence, the obligation is 2% of GDP spent on defence.

    Have your cake and eating it would be to want the protection of NATO but not pay the 2%.

    Oh hang on a sec...
    UK 'fails to meet' Nato national defence spending pledge
    If people like Rupert Murdoch, Nigel Farage, George Galloway, Nick Griffin and Marine Le Pen want Britain to leave the EU. Where does that put you?

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    And in the article even NATO states that they believe we spent 2.21% on defence.... Another none story
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    oh dear wrong again

    The Ministry of Defence rejected the figures, saying the think tank had got its sums wrong and Nato's own figures put the spending share at 2.21 per cent.
    Even the article suggests if their figures are right (NATO say not) it was 0.2%

    “The UK dipped slightly below this at 1.98 per cent, as its economy grew faster in 2016 than its defence spending.

    “Nonetheless, the UK remained the only European state in the world's top five defence spenders in 2016.”
    Now if project fear had delivered the promised Brexit recession we would have been alright.
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    Sounds like a technicality. 1.98% isn't exactly a huge underspend. I'm sure it will be addressed by MOD.

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