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    #21
    why are you looking at permie roles
    wash your eyes with xtra strong bleach

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      #22
      Originally posted by original PM View Post

      they are not looking for someone to succeed they are looking for someone to fail and take the blame.
      Suity, your next job has arrived.

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        #23
        Originally posted by d000hg View Post
        50k is a high salary. Unless this is in London?
        UK’s Average Annual Wages 2015

        1. Brokers - £133,677
        2. Chief executives and senior officials - £107,703
        3. Aircraft pilots and flight engineers - £90,146
        4. Marketing and sales directors - £82,962
        5. Advertising and public relations directors - £77,619
        6. Legal professionals - £73,425
        7. Medical practitioners – £69,463
        8. Human resource managers and directors - £56,315
        9. Sales accounts and business development managers - £51,576

        10. Senior professionals of educational establishments - £49,679
        11. Senior officers in fire, ambulance, prison and related services - £48,228
        12. Business and financial project management professionals – £47,795
        13. Train and tram drivers - £47,101
        14. Solicitors - £46,576
        15. Taxation experts - £46.551
        16. Finance and investment analysts and advisers - £45,490
        17. Property, housing and estate managers - £44,423
        18. Insurance underwriters - £43,487
        19. Barristers and judges - £43,368
        20. Architects - £43,029
        21. Financial accounts managers - £41,389
        22. Quantity surveyors - £41,086
        23. Information technology and telecommunications professionals - £40,957
        24. Programmers and software development professionals - £40,748
        25. Construction project managers and related professionals - £40,519
        26. Advertising accounts managers and creative directors - £40,510
        27. Dental practitioners - £40,268
        28. Civil engineers - £40,200
        29. Rail transport operatives - £40,060
        30. Higher education teaching professionals - £40,054
        31. Police officers (sergeant and below) - £38,720
        32. Chartered and certified accountants - £38,692
        33. Veterinarians - £37,763
        34. Arts officers, producers and directors - £37,519
        35. Pharmacists - £37,439 39. Paramedics - £36,771
        36. Psychologists - £36,495
        37. Chartered surveyors - £36,470
        38. Rail construction and maintenance operatives - £35,781
        39. Crane drivers - £35,458
        40. Journalists, newspaper and periodical editors - £34,639
        41. Engineering technicians - £34,355
        42. Education advisers and school inspectors - £31,655
        43. Medical radiographers - £31,521
        44. Ophthalmic opticians - £30,834
        45. Rail travel assistants - £30,698
        46. Electricians and electrical fitters - £30,345
        47. Leisure and sports managers - £30,201
        48. Probation officers - £30,026
        49. Primary and nursery education teaching professionals - £29,908
        50. Web design and development professionals - £29,856
        51. Marketing associate professionals - £29,797
        52. Midwives - £29,529
        53. Public relations professionals - £29,488
        54. Human resources and industrial relations officers - £29,221
        55. Hotel and accommodation managers - £29,161
        56. Social workers - £28,745
        57. Physiotherapists - £28,560
        58. Customer service managers and supervisors - £28,387
        59. Product, clothing and related designers - £28,346
        60. Plumbers - £27,330
        61. Speech and language therapists - £26,765
        62. Medical and dental technicians - £26,440
        63. Nurses - £26,252
        64. Occupational therapists - £26,037
        65. Police community support officers - £26,012
        66. Graphic designers - £25,952
        67. IT engineers - £25,934
        68. Authors, writers and translators - £25,767
        69. Mechanics and electricians - £25,145
        70. Librarians - £24,927
        71. Carpenters and joiners - £24,817
        72. Bricklayers and masons - £24,790
        73. Estate agents and auctioneers - £24,622
        74. Finance officers - £24,418
        75. Restaurant and catering establishment managers - £23,781
        76. Artists - £23,228
        77. Farmers - £22,763
        78. Ambulance staff (excluding paramedics) - £22,582
        79. Painters and decorators - £22,351
        80. Archivists and curators - £22,264
        81. Bus drivers - £22,176
        82. Hairdressing and beauty salon managers - £22,113
        83. Laboratory technicians - £21,533
        84. Musicians - £21,410
        85. Fork-lift truck drivers - £21,345
        86. Book-keepers, payroll managers and wages clerks - £20,915
        87. Youth and community workers - £20,491
        88. Personal assistants and other secretaries – £19,738
        89. Bank and post office clerks - £19,557
        90. Teachers - £18,604
        91. Catering and bar managers - £18,535
        92. Legal secretary - £18,425
        93. Landscape Gardener - £18,010
        94. Telephone salespersons - £17,549
        95. Counsellors - £17,526
        96. Chefs - £17,513
        97. Undertakers - £17,414
        98. Street cleaners - £17,402
        99. Travel agents - £17,081
        100. Veterinary nurses - £16,746

        Senior care workers £16,609
        Dental nurses £14,788
        Care workers £12,650
        Teaching assistants £11,916
        Nursery assistants £11,734
        Beauticians £11,618
        Hairdressers and barbers £10,019
        Cleaners £7,919
        Waitresses £7,554
        Waiters £7,554
        Bar staff £7,404

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          #24
          That list is utter bollox.

          If you think your dentist is earning £40K a year, ask him how he affords to live in a million pound house and drive a £100K car.

          Solicitors too.

          And those trade salaries are for permie trades people. Brickies and plumbers running a limited will be paying themselves dividends and receiving a lot of income (cough) cash in hand.

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            #25
            Originally posted by SunnyInHades View Post
            UK’s Average Annual Wages 2015

            1. Brokers - £133,677
            The ones who deal with women of pleasure?

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              #26
              Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
              That list is utter bollox.

              If you think your dentist is earning £40K a year, ask him how he affords to live in a million pound house and drive a £100K car.

              Solicitors too.

              And those trade salaries are for permie trades people. Brickies and plumbers running a limited will be paying themselves dividends and receiving a lot of income (cough) cash in hand.
              They can't include dentists, builders, plumbers, solicitors, accountants etc who use a limited company.

              The list is just PAYE salaries.
              "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                #27
                Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

                The list is just PAYE salaries.
                Yeah, but that street sweeper will make twice my salary next year...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                  My point is, how the hell does a senior IT role, managing an offshore delivery team in a high pressure environment pay £50K? They are looking for someone with at least 10 years experience of delivering IT solutions to the company, but salaries are the same at 15 years ago?

                  IT has gone nowhere since 2000.

                  Still it has gone over your empty heas as usual, so don't worry about it.
                  I understand your anger but the IT wages are getting lower and lower.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Bee View Post
                    I understand your anger but the IT wages are getting lower and lower.
                    IT wages are being forced lower for reasons we all know.

                    Do you think that the current bodies who look after say accountants would not be up in arms if accounts departments started to offshore their clerks?

                    Fact is there is huge protectionism over the old school jobs like lawyers and accountants just to protect jobs for the boys.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by original PM View Post
                      IT wages are being forced lower for reasons we all know.

                      Do you think that the current bodies who look after say accountants would not be up in arms if accounts departments started to offshore their clerks?

                      Fact is there is huge protectionism over the old school jobs like lawyers and accountants just to protect jobs for the boys.
                      Lawyers and accountant's back office roles are being off-shored.

                      Anyway lots of IT roles are coming back on-shore or being near shored.
                      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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