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    Default HMRC off payroll decision service

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    I think this will be useless without the ~/hmrc/off-payroll-decision-service/sheets/kb-rules-01.xls file, won't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matzie View Post
    I think this will be useless without the ~/hmrc/off-payroll-decision-service/sheets/kb-rules-01.xls file, won't it?
    The json schema gives an indication of what the criteria probably are, so not complete, but not useless either.

    Personal service

    - right/obligation of substitution, rejection of substitute, who pays, whether exercised
    - whether helper can be used and who pays


    Control

    - told what to do, whether you can be moved (from job to job?)
    - how work is done and level of expertise
    - when (and who stipulates when)
    - where


    Financial Risk

    - provision of vehicle and who pays
    - whether equipment is needed and who provides
    - who provides consumables
    - who pays for expenses recurs
    - how work is paid for

    Business structure

    - VAT registered
    - Business account
    - Advertise for work
    - Business website
    - Pays for training
    - Business premises
    - Insurance


    Part of Organisation

    - Receives benefits
    - Is a line manager
    - Has contact with Engager's customers
    - Represents Engager's business


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    - Similar work (I guess similar to employees?)
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    is this a joke? HMRC surely would not have placed such sensitive stuff in the public domain yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPwannadecentincome View Post
    is this a joke? HMRC surely would not have placed such sensitive stuff in the public domain yet.
    Appears genuine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teapot418 View Post
    Appears genuine.
    All HMRC systems are supposed to be open sourced...
    merely at clientco for the entertainment

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    Quote Originally Posted by teapot418 View Post
    The json schema gives an indication of what the criteria probably are, so not complete, but not useless either.

    Personal service

    - right/obligation of substitution, rejection of substitute, who pays, whether exercised
    - whether helper can be used and who pays


    Control

    - told what to do, whether you can be moved (from job to job?)
    - how work is done and level of expertise
    - when (and who stipulates when)
    - where


    Financial Risk

    - provision of vehicle and who pays
    - whether equipment is needed and who provides
    - who provides consumables
    - who pays for expenses recurs
    - how work is paid for

    Business structure

    - VAT registered
    - Business account
    - Advertise for work
    - Business website
    - Pays for training
    - Business premises
    - Insurance


    Part of Organisation

    - Receives benefits
    - Is a line manager
    - Has contact with Engager's customers
    - Represents Engager's business


    Miscellaneous

    - Similar work (I guess similar to employees?)
    That doesn't feel that different to the sorts of things now? Dare I suggest most of that (Direction aside) would be quite easy to evidence as being outside?

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngguy View Post
    That doesn't feel that different to the sorts of things now? Dare I suggest most of that (Direction aside) would be quite easy to evidence as being outside?
    The problem is the person answering the questions and the level of risk they are willing to accept...
    merely at clientco for the entertainment

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    Quote Originally Posted by eek View Post
    The problem is the person answering the questions and the level of risk they are willing to accept...
    And the loaded "weighting" for each question, if it works on points per question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LandRover View Post
    And the loaded "weighting" for each question, if it works on points per question.
    You don't get that far. Let's be honest, would you risk your agency's profit to help a supplier or go for the safest and cheapest option for you
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