References & IR35

[NewWorld123]

We have seen that many agents are insisting on references.
If they collect references (issued to you as a candidate and not to your limited company), does it mean that the contract will be inside IR35?

[cojak]

The questions you have been asking are along the lines of "will kissing make me pregnant?" I would suggest reading the first-timers section of this website and using search.

[eliquant]

I got asked for references today by an agent for a client that I've already been interviewed by, "just to give me that edge".

I fully realized at that stage that I had not secured the contract and that the agent was not willing to inform me of this and was just giving me false hope in order to scam me for references.

< Eliquant in: No S*it Sherlock, try and get one past me Mr. Agent, mode>


As to how these references relate to IR35, I haven't got a Scooby.

[badger7579]

Do a tiny weeny bit of reasearch for ****S sake

[NotAllThere]

Originally Posted by NewWorld123

We have seen that many agents are insisting on references.
If they collect references (issued to you as a candidate and not to your limited company), does it mean that the contract will be inside IR35?

NO

[Another Dodgy Agent]

Originally Posted by eliquant

I got asked for references today by an agent for a client that I've already been interviewed by, "just to give me that edge".

I fully realized at that stage that I had not secured the contract and that the agent was not willing to inform me of this and was just giving me false hope in order to scam me for references.

< Eliquant in: No S*it Sherlock, try and get one past me Mr. Agent, mode>


As to how these references relate to IR35, I haven't got a Scooby.

Blimey well no offence but I hope I don't bump into you on a gig. I will present references on interview for my candidates because it can influence the final decision. If hiring manager has 2 candidates he cannot decide about, then the one with the references will always win through.

now you can quote "bullcocks" on this but I have witnessed it too many times, it is often a good deal maker.

[downsouth]

Originally Posted by Another Dodgy Agent

Blimey well no offence but I hope I don't bump into you on a gig. I will present references on interview for my candidates because it can influence the final decision. If hiring manager has 2 candidates he cannot decide about, then the one with the references will always win through.

now you can quote "bullcocks" on this but I have witnessed it too many times, it is often a good deal maker.

OK so not knowing your knowledge of IT jobs how can you obtain a reference that is of benefit to the client, I ask this because you have a vested interest in getting your candidate to gain the gig so 'your reference' will obviously be glowing.

Another thing with obtaining references is that many companies simply dont give out references other than to confirm that a person has worked at a company between X dates and the job title performed, so how is this useful at all

[NotAllThere]

Originally Posted by Another Dodgy Agent

Blimey well no offence but I hope I don't bump into you on a gig. I will present references on interview for my candidates because it can influence the final decision. If hiring manager has 2 candidates he cannot decide about, then the one with the references will always win through.

now you can quote "bullcocks" on this but I have witnessed it too many times, it is often a good deal maker.

Bullcocks. If I have 2 candidates I can't decide about, I toss a coin. References are irrelevant.

[oracleslave]

Originally Posted by NotAllThere

Bullcocks. If I have 2 candidates I can't decide about, I toss a coin. References are irrelevant.

I only look for references when I am really struggling to decide between two candidates. My field is typically small enough that I will either know the references or know someone that I trust that knows them. Then I'm only a phone call away from deciding between them.

[Another Dodgy Agent]

Originally Posted by NotAllThere

Bullcocks. If I have 2 candidates I can't decide about, I toss a coin. References are irrelevant.

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