Contract vs Permanent Opportunity

[Another Dodgy Agent]

Originally Posted by NotAllThere

Simple. Under no circumstances go permie.

I've been offered (and turned down) a permanent position twice in my current contract, and it's been running nearly three years now.

Perm's great, think of all the benefits!

[NotAllThere]

Originally Posted by Another Dodgy Agent

Perm's great, think of all the benefits!

Yeah, like appraisals. *shudder*

[BolshieBastard]

Originally Posted by NotAllThere

Yeah, like appraisals. *shudder*

Not to mention 'setting your work objectives' 'PDP's' and other such sh ite.

[Another Dodgy Agent]

Originally Posted by BolshieBastard

Not to mention 'setting your work objectives' 'PDP's' and other such sh ite.

As a permie myself my work objectives are as follows:

Taking out my clients, taking out my contractors, attempting to justify the resultant expense claim

[NotAllThere]

Originally Posted by Another Dodgy Agent

As a permie myself my work objectives are as follows:

Taking out my clients, taking out my contractors, attempting to justify the resultant expense claim

But wouldn't it be better to be the one in charge - then you only have to justify your expenses to HMRC.

And you get to live off the labour of the poor saps in your employ.

[mailric]

Originally Posted by FarmerPalmer

personally I have just taken the plunge back into contracting again.

I went permanent 8 years ago when the industry went into recession,
and now its just got back out.

[mailric]

Yea, go permie.
Try and get somehwere that still has a clocking in and out machine.
Oh, and make sure you sign up for the grreat pension scheme.
And get involved in the Social Accountability ventures so you can read to the local thick kids.
Oh, and don't forget the holiday chart, make sure they have a good holiday chart so no more than 3 people are off at any one time or else the world ends.
And of course the Performance Development Programme - this time next year you could be a higher graded ***** than you are now....



WAKE UP MAN! DON'T DO IT.

edit: ok, so calling you a **** wasnt nice. i'm just trying to make a point here. you see?

[Stan.goodvibes]

Don't do it. Don't go to the dark side. You became a contractor for a number of reasons, one of those must surely have been because you were prepared to have a little risk in your life (unlike the permies).

Sure - take that permy job 'just for a while'. Settle into that permy-suburban-2.4 children-pebbledashed-terraced-dreamcastle lifestyle 'just for a while'. Lie down in this little wooden box 'just for a while'.... Once you take that first step into permyland its all over, you may as well just stock up the freezer with Vienetta for those Sunday afternoon teas with the in-laws right now...

Jeez, its not like we work all day with high explosives or spaceships or fire hoses - it's just I.T. - Contracting is about the only way to inject a *small* modicum of cool and excitement into our chosen career path. Do you *really* need MORE security in your already incredibly safe life? Would your life really be ruined if you went without work for a month or two (or 6)?

Back yourself man, take the risk, enjoy the uncertainty.

[Ashwin2007]

Originally Posted by Stan.goodvibes

Do you *really* need MORE security in your already incredibly safe life? Would your life really be ruined if you went without work for a month or two (or 6)?

Back yourself man, take the risk, enjoy the uncertainty.

I recently came across a permanent role with the following terms:

Probationary period: 3 months
Notice period during probationary period: 1 week either side.
Notice period after the probationary period: one month either side.

Such terms do not appear to provide job security.

The only difference between a contract and permanent role appears to be salary. The only reason a contractor may consider permanent role appears to be non-availability of contracts.

[Charles Foster Kane]

Originally Posted by Ashwin2007

I recently came across a permanent role with the following terms:

Probationary period: 3 months
Notice period during probationary period: 1 week either side.
Notice period after the probationary period: one month either side.

Such terms do not appear to provide job security.

The only difference between a contract and permanent role appears to be salary. The only reason a contractor may consider permanent role appears to be non-availability of contracts.

Not really, some types of jobs only come in a 'permanent' flavour.