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18th August 2008, 16:24
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Fingers like lightning
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: London
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Originally Posted by Incognito
How do you know I'm not fulfilling a Security role for a list X company?

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How do you know that I am not from the MIB division?
To answer your question... I don't know or care. :-).
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18th August 2008, 22:27
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Zomerset
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Originally Posted by Incognito
Oh dear, looks like someone's not to squeaky clean and the DVA just want to keep an eye on you. A guy I used to work with had a shorter SC because he was an alkie.
Oh and see that little bit of paper you sign called the Official Secrets Act, you've just broken it by posting on here that you have clearance.
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I used to have DV so there's no fly's on me.  ....doh! The security officer said it has just come in as the MoD is insisting on keeping closer tabs due to all the newly cleared people. If I was in any way a risk I'd be just as risky should I have 3, 5, or 10 years so I doubt there's anyone parked outside my house watching my every move.
CTC is just one up from BC, it was designed for airport workers etc.
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18th August 2008, 22:33
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Walking in the garden, dreaming of Olivia...
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By the way, CTC is lower than SC...
And it's always been 5 years for contractors, 10 for permies. And it expires 1 year after you leave the role that needs it regardless.
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18th August 2008, 22:42
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Contractor Among Contractors
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Edinbra
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Originally Posted by malvolio
By the way, CTC is lower than SC...
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I was waiting for someone to come back with that...
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19th August 2008, 07:16
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Walking in the garden, dreaming of Olivia...
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Originally Posted by scooterscot
I was waiting for someone to come back with that...
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They've changed the labels but the old standard is still in place:
BC - You are who you say you are
CTC - You really are who you say you are
SC - We know who you really are
DV - We've actually checked that we know who you really are .
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19th August 2008, 11:09
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by malvolio
By the way, CTC is lower than SC...
And it's always been 5 years for contractors, 10 for permies. And it expires 1 year after you leave the role that needs it regardless.
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I feel special then. My clearance is for 10 years...
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19th August 2008, 12:06
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Fingers like lightning
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: London
Posts: 505
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Originally Posted by ratewhore
I feel special then. My clearance is for 10 years...
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Daft question (nothing new there then)... is it possible to transfer the clearance to (or at least hold a copy against) ones own ltd company or does it have to be held by the client who has the direct contract with the SC based client?
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19th August 2008, 12:23
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More time posting than coding
Join Date: Nov 2006
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I had BC Enhanced, whatever that means.
Quote:
Originally Posted by malvolio

They've changed the labels but the old standard is still in place:
BC - You are who you say you are
CTC - You really are who you say you are
SC - We know who you really are
DV - We've actually checked that we know who you really are .
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19th August 2008, 12:25
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Super poster
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Zomerset
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Originally Posted by malvolio
By the way, CTC is lower than SC...
And it's always been 5 years for contractors, 10 for permies. And it expires 1 year after you leave the role that needs it regardless.
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That’s what I thought however I've just had mine renewed last week and it expires in 2011 so its only 3 years, the security controller said it was now standard for contractors.
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Originally Posted by pmeswani
Daft question (nothing new there then)... is it possible to transfer the clearance to (or at least hold a copy against) ones own ltd company or does it have to be held by the client who has the direct contract with the SC based client?
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Either the client or the agency can hold it providing they're list X, you're ltd can’t hold any clearance. I believe DV is held only by the DVA.
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19th August 2008, 12:52
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Lurker not a fighter
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gingerjedi
That’s what I thought however I've just had mine renewed last week and it expires in 2011 so its only 3 years, the security controller said it was now standard for contractors.
Either the client or the agency can hold it providing they're list X, you're ltd can’t hold any clearance. I believe DV is held only by the DVA.
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The DVA are the "Defense Vetting Agency" they only clear people or hold clearance for military positions. ie work on Military projects. (MOD etc). Cabinet office, MI5 and another 2 vetting agencies im not aware of hold clearance for other government sections. ie GCHQ, Police, Local government, FCO etc.
Any company can hold any level of govenment clearance as long as they are authorised to by the government and meet their criteria. Ie. List X for DV etc.
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