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    I once worked on a contract for electronic monitoring of crims or, 'subjects' as they preferred to call them. Had to go on a 3 day seminar which was quite informative!

    They also said I could go out with a crew one night to tag some more crims, sorry, subjects, if I wished. I politely declined that option.

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    In house courses? I wouldn't.

    The client is free to send me their anti-discrimination policy, IT acceptable use policy etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unixman View Post
    In house courses? I wouldn't.

    The client is free to send me their anti-discrimination policy, IT acceptable use policy etc.
    And if their policy states that all externally contracted resources who are working on-site must attend the course?
    Where there's muck there's brass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladyuk View Post
    And if their policy states that all externally contracted resources who are working on-site must attend the course?
    Indeed. The clue being in the title of the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billybiro View Post
    Genuine question. Is the client legally responsible for transgressions made by 3rd-party contractors (i.e. non-employees) in the area of diversity/inclusion?
    They can be held legally responsible either jointly or solely.

    Quote Originally Posted by billybiro View Post
    If a builder walks on site and makes a smutty remark about the secretary's ample cleavage, is the client company to blame?
    If they don't remove him from site when the secretary complains they can be held liable if she then sues the client company for sexual discrimination.

    The builder will not work alongside client staff, however contractors and temps doing various intellectual and office functions tend to do so daily.

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    Are all 3rd-party visitors to the client company's site required to undertake "mandatory diversity/inclusion training" ?
    No but they can be removed from site including forcefully if they cause distress to someone who works on site.

    I've actually been on a site where a contractor was removed primarily because he was sexist against 2 women he had to work along side. One was a contractor and the other was a permie. He was removed on competency grounds to avoid him trying to sue. He hadn't twigged when he was given the work for, which he was removed, the only people who could help him with it where the women on the team so he couldn't do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladyuk View Post
    And if their policy states that all externally contracted resources who are working on-site must attend the course?
    Have you seen such a policy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    ... if you want a pass or system access.
    This.
    Several of my clients will not give you a security pass to get in to the building unless you have gone through their relevant courses. The only people on site who don't have to do the courses are those with visitor badges, and if you have one of those then you can't get through doors, etc and you must be escorted by someone who is authorised to show you around.

    If the client says you have to sit through something before you can access their system, then it is a prerequisite for you to do your work. It's not an IR35 flag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unixman View Post
    In house courses? I wouldn't.

    The client is free to send me their anti-discrimination policy, IT acceptable use policy etc.
    Expect to be walked then.

    Depending on who work is for and whether the client is in a regulated environment then you may end up doing a raft of tulip courses such as IT security, data protection, anti-fraud, anti-bribery. Then there are H&S courses you have to do to stop you suing the client such as display screen regulations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unixman View Post
    Have you seen such a policy?
    Yes. For a large firm involved in financial services.

    The courses were online and I could have spend 3 days straight doing the courses as there were different levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unixman View Post
    Have you seen such a policy?
    Yes, in the construction industry and pharmaceuticals.
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