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Contracting straight out of uni. Is it doable? v2

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    #31
    Please, some sympathy for the OP!

    To the OP:

    Being myself probably younger/less experienced than the average contractor here, I do understand your desire and ambition.
    It's true, there are many, many contractors that are pretty pants and if people could see inside you and measure your skills, determination, willingness to prove yourself, they'd probably give you a go.
    But, sad as it is, they can't.

    Hiring somebody brand new will always be a shot in the dark and the parties involved will try their best to mitigate that risk.
    Somebody as young as you is perceived as a very unsafe bet (even more so with you having certain day rates in mind, the very least you could offer would be a competitive price?) and the absolute last resort.

    As much as people like to think that being a freelancer can be akin to having your lemonade kiosk and that therefore the good will out, the good product/service will soon prevail, it's not so.
    Previous experience, professional contacts and the like will always prevail on pure skill and talent, if we want to bother that big word.

    My suggestion is that a faster way to travel that path might be bona fide IT consulting (probably not of the Big4/Accenture/Capgemini type).

    The only exception to this whole thing would be you having contacts of any type with people willing to give you a go (say, companies your worked for in a different capacity as a student and the like).
    Last edited by Lavarella; 6 April 2017, 13:22.

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      #32
      Stuff like this is beginning to appear: Jobserve £70-80 a day.

      Really struggle to see how that is justifiable as a contract role, especially as there is no way on the world it can escape IR35.

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        #33
        Originally posted by SussexSeagull View Post
        Stuff like this is beginning to appear: Jobserve £70-80 a day.

        Really struggle to see how that is justifiable as a contract role, especially as there is no way on the world it can escape IR35.
        It's a way in for someone who effectively knows nothing outside a home PC (i.e. 90% of school and Uni leavers...). A few more people offering (and taking on) such roles would eventually kill off the "skills shortage".
        Blog? What blog...?

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          #34
          OP, why are you asking for advise here? If you want to do contracting, do it, what’s the worst that can happen?? If you don’t get a contract or if you get a contract and you don’t like the lifestyle then go back to permie again… just do it !

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            #35
            Originally posted by SandyD View Post
            OP, why are you asking for advise here? If you want to do contracting, do it, what’s the worst that can happen?? If you don’t get a contract or if you get a contract and you don’t like the lifestyle then go back to permie again… just do it !
            What's the worst that can happen? Like no income for many months. Even for young people that's not a pretty prospect.
            'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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              #36
              What's that? You want a house built? No problem... I've read about it and watched some Youtube vids.

              Cost? Yeah, I'll want the same as that builder down the road with 30 years of experience.

              References? I built a tree house last year. How hard can it be?

              And the lord said unto John; "come forth and receive eternal life." But John came fifth and won a toaster.

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                #37
                Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                What's the worst that can happen? Like no income for many months. Even for young people that's not a pretty prospect.
                Then he finds a permie job ..

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by SandyD View Post
                  Then he finds a permie job ..
                  With little experience with no money coming in?
                  'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                    #39
                    Actually I wouldn't recomend anyone going into IT but as we are passed that I would personally go and find a permanent role and learn your trade on the job then go contracting when you have hit your ceiling.

                    Funnily enough I would have recommended differently a couple of years back but I think the era when projects were almost entirely resourced by contractors is coming to a close so it is returning to the days you needed to be a full on specialist.

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                      #40
                      I'd suggest finding some freelance work on the side rather than go contracting. Depending on your areas of interest and experience this might be easier or harder to do... small firms are always looking for website functionality from freelancers for instance.
                      Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                      I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
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                      Urine is quite nourishing

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