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    Default Abbey WILL (if your initial contract passes) cover for retrospective PS IR35 claims

    Spoken to Abbey Tax - they will cover for retrospective claims but not for post April PS (yet!)

    https://community.ipse.co.uk/threads...l-2017.112673/
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    What is meant by "retrospective" in this case?

    Are HMRC saying they will investigate pre-2017, or post-2017 in the future?

    I'm not working in PS, just interested at HMRC's alternative facts.

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    And your title is inaccurate.

    I think that 'WILL' is negated by ''(possibly)'.

    WILL = a very positive yes.

    (possibly) = a rather meh maybe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by psychocandy View Post
    Spoken to Abbey Tax - they will cover for retrospective claims but not for post April PS (yet!)

    https://community.ipse.co.uk/threads...l-2017.112673/
    TBH, I find it extremely odd that you would think any different. If you can fully demonstrate that your WP are outside now, then you're currently outside, and Abbey can confidently insure themselves against the small risk of their assessment being wrong. However, let's not pretend that an investigation would be fun or short, because the client may not be onside if the WP haven't changed (and their assessment is inside post April). Also, based on your previous posts, you may have a job convincing them about your WP currently... What are you going to do if they say you've been inside all along?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbrown View Post
    What are you going to do if they say you've been inside all along?
    Cry like a baby
    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. But Gandhi never had to deal with HMRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbrown View Post
    TBH, I find it extremely odd that you would think any different. If you can fully demonstrate that your WP are outside now, then you're currently outside, and Abbey can confidently insure themselves against the small risk of their assessment being wrong. However, let's not pretend that an investigation would be fun or short, because the client may not be onside if the WP haven't changed (and their assessment is inside post April). Also, based on your previous posts, you may have a job convincing them about your WP currently... What are you going to do if they say you've been inside all along?
    That's why he has been advised many times to get the hell out of dodge now.

    His working practices have always been well suspect, in any case.
    He can't help it, its in the nature of what he is really doing.

    i.e. BOS Permitractor work.

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    Today's CUK newsletter - "IR35 inspectors to probe public PSCs retrospectively"

    Thankfully, my limited company isn't public, it's privately owned so should be safe
    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. But Gandhi never had to deal with HMRC

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    FTFY

    Quote Originally Posted by RonBW View Post
    Lube up, take the pain, then cry like a baby

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
    FTFY
    At least the cost of lube can come out of the 5% expenses.

    Though that raises an interesting question. At the moment, you can claim 5% expenses if caught by IR35. If there is a retrospective investigation into your public sector work and you are found inside, will that 5% still be allowed or will HMRC push to have that removed as well? I guess only time (and the first investigations) will tell.
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    I thought all IR35 investigations were retrospective.....

    As others have said, I do find it surprising PC is so vocal about all this when he's more at risk than anyone else I know yet has done nothing about it. Each to their own.

    And yes, that title is just utter crap. Not too sure Abbey will be overly pleased by that.
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